Fatal blow to Climate Denial

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Those Chinese capitalists have enabled the greening by taking on all the pollution. It's a plot to weaken us.

We should be 3D printing houses out of mud [laced with flash graphene].

Astaroth? It may be inside your computer:

Actually, she's from the most ancient Judaic traditions.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

The full title is The Adam And Eve Story The History Of Cataclysms


What in [*deity}'s name is a 'second lower-case-r 'resurrection". Blue pill joke?

I'm not going to read The Adam And EVE STORY, so I can't address that.
Astaroth IS a deity. Every letter in her name is lower case except for A.
I technically qualify for the second resurrection, so it's gonna be more than a thousand years before I can get around to reading the 'book.'
No jokes.

[freebeard]

[R]esurrection, not AstAroth.

All lies in jest.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

[R]esurrection, not AstAroth.

All lies in jest.

Just my way of being disrespectful.
Turnabout is fair play!

[freebeard]

I thought you were expecting a second near-death experience.

[oil pan 4]

Oh you lost me at "pbs".

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Oh you lost me at "pbs".

I get the disdain, but that's not reason enough to be dismissive. Even those who are usually wrong occasionally offer something of value. Besides, there's hardly any value in listening to what you already agree with, but enormous value in listening to what you don't.

...now to find that Frontline. Looks like I lost the recording schedule when I reloaded Plex the last time. Last thing I have is Biden, Jan 2021.

...it's on Utoobs

[freebeard]

Even those who are usually wrong occasionally offer something of value.

[redpoint5]

Fell asleep watching last night and continued watching now...

I'll post more as my thoughts arise. One thing that occurs to me is the absurdity of the statement "those who have historically contributed most to the problem should step up to the plate first in the effort to reduce emissions".

If I'm the first to discover a large river and fish all I want, there's no problem. Nature is practically unimpacted by the few fish I gather. Later on, if many others start fishing all they want and that causes a problem with the fish population, is the correct course of action to tell all those first to the stream to leave, or is it to apply limits everyone wanting to fish?

It's similar fail logic as white-looking people paying "reparations" to darker-looking people because of historic injustice done by and to people long dead.

Why should the US take on an unequally larger responsibility for a problem unforeseen and begun by dead people? If there's a problem with the global commons, it's everyone's responsibility regardless of which dead people started it.

It seems abundantly clear that all nations have an equal role to play in solving the problem, but defining what equal is, is quite difficult.

A CO2 allowance per capita seems to be the intuitive definition of "equal", but that leaves out the other half of the equation, the number of people. CO2 per capita encourages a large population since things like military consumption of fossil fuels would be distributed across many people, as an example. The fact that the US has a steady birthrate should count as something.

So, the topic of "equal" isn't so straightforward.

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

I get the disdain, but that's not reason enough to be dismissive. Even those who are usually wrong occasionally offer something of value. Besides, there's hardly any value in listening to what you already agree with, but enormous value in listening to what you don't.

...now to find that Frontline. Looks like I lost the recording schedule when I reloaded Plex the last time. Last thing I have is Biden, Jan 2021.

...it's on Utoobs

But not on climate change.