04-23-2022, 02:00 PM
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But not on climate change.
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They're certainly extremely biased, but I see some small effort to give the opposition some room to explain themselves. I'll have to finish watching and summarize the good/bad/ugly.
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04-24-2022, 05:48 PM
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3x1.5hr is an investment in time. I will wait for the series to air and people I respect offering reaction videos on Youtube. 12 minutes is the sweet spot.
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In accordance with prophesy:
12:50 from PBS themselves.
edit: Listening now. Micheal Mann is a Catastrophist.
I've always thought it's fire and ice -- glaciers and vulcanism. Buyt fear not, just move to Vermont. Here's this:
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04-25-2022, 01:00 PM
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Catastrophist
Same for Exxon, Royal Dutch Shell, and Big Coal.
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04-25-2022, 03:57 PM
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Still need to finish watching...
Earlier in the documentary one of the Exxon Mobile execs being interviewed said they did a "soup to nuts" analysis of alternative energy and determined none were anywhere near viable. That 100% explains why they continued to be a petroleum company instead of something else. A company has to be viable, and there's no getting around that.
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The thing that drives me crazy is the hypocrisy of most of those in the green religion.
Imagine a person purchasing beer at a checkout counter while heaping shame upon the cashier for selling something that's harmful to humans.
Some in the green religion want to portray the oil industry as a super evil enterprise that cons good people into a product they wouldn't normally want. The consumer is the other half of the equation, so where's the part of the documentary vilifying all of humanity? We're free to live without petroleum derived products but choose to have them. If there was no demand, that industry would vanish.
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04-25-2022, 05:05 PM
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Still need to finish watching...
Earlier in the documentary one of the Exxon Mobile execs being interviewed said they did a "soup to nuts" analysis of alternative energy and determined none were anywhere near viable. That 100% explains why they continued to be a petroleum company instead of something else. A company has to be viable, and there's no getting around that.
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The thing that drives me crazy is the hypocrisy of most of those in the green religion.
Imagine a person purchasing beer at a checkout counter while heaping shame upon the cashier for selling something that's harmful to humans.
Some in the green religion want to portray the oil industry as a super evil enterprise that cons good people into a product they wouldn't normally want. The consumer is the other half of the equation, so where's the part of the documentary vilifying all of humanity? We're free to live without petroleum derived products but choose to have them. If there was no demand, that industry would vanish.
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Yep. They're out there.
At some point I developed 'emotion radar.'
I can sense when rational dialogue ends and enters into irrational, emotion-dominated discourse.
People lose all credibility when they leave the air-conditioned guzzler condominium, get into their air-conditioned gas-guzzler car, dressed like an Eskimo, in August, hopping from one Sinless Club venue to another, gutter-talking all of those who provide the creature comforts and possessions they 'expect.'
Ignoring them is bliss.
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04-28-2022, 12:13 AM
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04-28-2022, 12:30 PM
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FRONTLINE-Part-2
Only one-hour this time.
Only thing I picked up was, Exxon-Mobil's, January, 2009, Rex Tillerson reversal of Exxon's Lee Raymond lies to Charlie Rose in 2005, admitting that climate change was real, was man-made, and carbon dioxide would be growing by 1%/year, 2-weeks before Barrack Obama's inaugural.
Pretty certain that none of this material will ever see the light of day in Texas' public school textbooks or curriculum.
Looking forwards to part-3.
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04-28-2022, 01:25 PM
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Why would conversations by any executive be part of any textbooks?
There's no shortage of leftist ideology in US education, so the fear and self-loathing bases are well covered.
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04-28-2022, 01:32 PM
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Climatologist Dr. Judith Curry testifies that the man made climate change theory is a hoax.
https://media.gab.com/system/media_a...7e01d4e73a.mp4
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