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Old 03-10-2020, 01:47 PM   #11 (permalink)
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4 (four) winter beaters ago!
Is that how time is measured in Canada?

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Old 03-10-2020, 01:55 PM   #12 (permalink)
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In my world it is.


That's only 3 Northern NY winter beaters at the current exchange rate.
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Old 03-11-2020, 11:32 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Car’s have such a different life depending on where they live. I am on the West coast and we do not use road salt. My 2002 Saturn L200 has 230,000 miles on it and will see 1/4 million miles this year. My 2006 Lincoln Navigator is very close to 200,000 miles and I have no plans to ever replace either vehicle. I did replace the rear hatch on the Lincoln because the paint started to bubble around the license plate. The hatch is aluminum and I am sure it was a test for the new aluminum Ford trucks.

There are still Geo Metros here. They have 250,000 miles on them but they still have frame horns.
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Old 07-14-2020, 04:34 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Woohoo!





70 MPG (US) = 3.4 L/100 km indicated

This was for a 79 km / 49 mile one-way trip.

Conditions were decent: mild (3C / 37F), with dry roads. The key element was a 15 km/h / 9 mph quartering tail wind. I've seen multiple trips in the low to mid-60's this (mild) winter, but this was the one I've been waiting for.

Route details: max posted limit of 80 km/h / 50 mph, passing through 3 towns. Average speed of 37 mph (includes multiple stop signs/red lights), max speed of 98 km/h / 60 mph (downhill - ha!).


Driving style: driving with load within a couple of km the speed limit on the open road, EOC down a few of the steeper hills and approaching stops & turns.


This is not 70 "actual" MPG - the display was 3-4% optimistic on the last couple of fill-ups compared to pump calculations.

But it's still fun to see!

Next up: 70 MPG round trip... then a "real" 70 MPG trip (that'd be 72.8 indicated)... 75! All of which will require much warmer weather.



Very nice, but not stunning, I think. I could reach almost the same amount with a 2009 Fiat Panda with an old 60 hp - 1,2 - four cylinder engine ("fire engine") in it.
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The fleet average fuel consumption for the Fiat Panda is quite a bit higher than for the 1.2 Mitsubishi Mirage.

https://www.spritmonitor.de/en/overv...10&powerunit=2

https://www.spritmonitor.de/en/overv...=1&powerunit=2

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Mirage 5.1 l/100 km average
Panda 6.28 l/ 100 km average

Hence on average the Fiat Panda consumes 23 % more fuel than the Mitsubishi Mirage.

From an environmental point of view, this is what really matters!
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Old 07-14-2020, 09:00 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Welcome to the forum, Silent Blood!

I agree - it's a decent but not a stunning result for the 1.2L Mirage, considering the late winter temperatures, non-LRR winter tires and basic eco-driving.

I'm sure the car is capable of 80+ MPG US / 2.9 L/100 km using more extreme techniques in milder weather conditions.

I'm looking forward to reading your fuel economy adventures with your old BMW 523!
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The fleet average fuel consumption for the Fiat Panda is quite a bit higher than for the 1.2 Mitsubishi Mirage.


From Spritmonitor

Mirage 5.1 l/100 km average
Panda 6.28 l/ 100 km average

Hence on average the Fiat Panda consumes 23 % more fuel than the Mitsubishi Mirage.

From an environmental point of view, this is what really matters!
Only 38 entrys on the Fiat, but 226 on the Mitsubishi?

I drove this car on france, very cozy from coast to coast, with about 80 km/h (50 mph). After a long road (donīt know the exact lenght anymore, but it was a few hours) he computer shows an average consumption of 3,7 l / 100 km (63,6 mpg). I have to mention, that it was the "Eco" - version with long 5. gear (100 km/h = 2600 U/min.). Canīt filter it out on "spritmonitor".
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Nice. I wish the Mirage had an eco version.


(Well it used to offer a 1.0L in some markets. But never here.)


Many North American owners complain that top gear is too short for good freeway economy. The Euro version has slightly more efficient gearing from the factory.
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Only 38 entrys on the Fiat, but 226 on the Mitsubishi?

I drove this car on france, very cozy from coast to coast, with about 80 km/h (50 mph). After a long road (donīt know the exact lenght anymore, but it was a few hours) he computer shows an average consumption of 3,7 l / 100 km (63,6 mpg). I have to mention, that it was the "Eco" - version with long 5. gear (100 km/h = 2600 U/min.). Canīt filter it out on "spritmonitor".
You have quoted the data incorrectly!

It is a sample size of 226 Fiat Pandas and 38 Mitsubishi Mirages.

Here is the Panda "ECO" data.

The average fuel consumption has improved slightly.

6.18 l/100 km

https://www.spritmonitor.de/en/overv...co&powerunit=2
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Old 07-14-2020, 09:56 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Can you swap the 1.0 into a Mirage?!

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