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Old 07-23-2017, 07:46 AM   #51 (permalink)
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I like the upper wheel fairings - this is the first time I have seen this idea:



The claim is 20% faster with the same effort - that is a LOT of gain. The top of a wheel is moving forward at 2X the speed of the vehicle.

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Old 07-23-2017, 10:43 AM   #52 (permalink)
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... The claim is 20% faster with the same effort - that is a LOT of gain. The top of a wheel is moving forward at 2X the speed of the vehicle.
That 20%, though, is dependent on headwinds. Other riders reported only 3%. I like if for the front, where headwinds are most important. But the back, behind my churning legs? Will that have as good an effect as a full wheel cover? Maybe this fairing on the front and a full wheel cover on the back is best?
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Old 07-23-2017, 10:51 AM   #53 (permalink)
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Old 07-23-2017, 06:01 PM   #54 (permalink)
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The proven set up is to build up the rim cross section in the front with bladed spokes. A solid disc only in the rear. The oval frame tubing is common. Cross wind is an issue for safety. The big effort on a commuter is the body shell around the rider. This is not permitted in most races. I use a shell from the shoulders to just below the knees. That way I can put a foot down when I stop. The shape is like a sailplane or a Vetter challenge machine with a Kamm square back 18" behind the seat. The shell must be securely attached to the frame and not the steering gear.
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Are you offering upper wheel fairings or something more?
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