flowmaster super 40... FE impact?

[Domman56]

Originally Posted by Frank Lee

Obviously I must run out and buy a Flowmaster 40 with a turndown now.

Maybe you should try it before you bash it

If you've got one of the big stock mufflers on your F150 it'll at least save a bit of weight and that alone should help fuel economy , Esspecially since some trucks mufflers weigh upwards of 100 pounds


Shoot you could even replace it with a stocky type (for most cars) muffler that's still quiet

You get a smaller muffler you're gonna save weight
try it
he responded

yeah i responded

[Christ]

Show me a muffler on any street truck that weighs 100lbs. Hell, show me a muffler on any road-going truck that you would see on an every day basis that weighs 100 lbs.

Dude. 2 eyes, 2 ears, 1 mouth. The hole only gets deeper when you dig.

At best, an aftermarket muffler saves a few lbs. Maybe even 10-15. I've seen carbon fiber variants of car mufflers that save up to 20.

You'll never even see the savings from that.

EDIT: Are you getting your data from magazine articles? I'm seriously trying to help you here... Magazine articles are almost always biased toward their sponsors, so the data is hardly ever irrefutable. In fact, it's almost always easily proven either to be incorrect wholly, or insufficient to draw a proper conclusion.

Just check around the 2 years worth of posts here... (Hint Hint) you'll see several of the sort have been debunked.

[Domman56]

Originally Posted by Christ

Show me a muffler on any street truck that weighs 100lbs. Hell, show me a muffler on any road-going truck that you would see on an every day basis that weighs 100 lbs.

Dude. 2 eyes, 2 ears, 1 mouth. The hole only gets deeper when you dig.

At best, an aftermarket muffler saves a few lbs. Maybe even 10-15. I've seen carbon fiber variants of car mufflers that save up to 20.

You'll never even see the savings from that.

EDIT: Are you getting your data from magazine articles? I'm seriously trying to help you here... Magazine articles are almost always biased toward their sponsors, so the data is hardly ever irrefutable. In fact, it's almost always easily proven either to be incorrect wholly, or insufficient to draw a proper conclusion.

Just check around the 2 years worth of posts here... (Hint Hint) you'll see several of the sort have been debunked.

Ok thanks for trying to help. I'm probably off on the exact weight of the muffler but i know deleting exhaust parts is a way to lighten most cars, long as you don't mess with emissions

When we took the rear muffler and piping off of my friends GMC sierra V6 it weighed over 55 pounds , new muffler he put on weighed 10 pounds. Maybe they don'tweigh 100 pounds but the point is the stock mufflers on most trucks are heeeeeavy

[mcrews]

Originally Posted by younggun

yeah i didnt expect any FE gain from just the muffler, but what about an entire new exhaust system... like from the headers back.? or is it again with the, if any, "immeasureable" gains if there are any and the definite debate in regards to there being gains at all.

Look, don't piece meal........do the whole thing at one time ....like the guy that owns this caddy....

[mcrews]

Originally Posted by Frank Lee

bla bla... so has anyone gotten better fe cuz uh pulling the muffler off? Dint think so.

I DID!!!!!!!

current set up.....



There was a HUGE suitcase muffler here that i removed.

After removing it, I went and got the Smith-Corona Model 5000x digital led bluetooh printout bathroom scale and weighed it. 96.45326 lbs.
The two new mini 3000 ltd bio-flow corban inner-alloy shinie outie mufflers wiegh .95lbs each as per same bathroom scale.

Then after doing sufficent y-z-sleez-4-u-b-cz one-way driveway testing, the mileage improved because my daughter's boyfriend's 19 yr old brother said it felt like it got better......as he drove it off the ramps.(ok so it was all downhill and I wouldn't let him turn on the engine)


ps....you know whats comin.....


to furthur enhance the JDM look........i did turndowns....












PPSS..i really don't make this stuff up!!!!
from:The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

turn·down (trndoun)
n.
1. A rejection.
2. One who has been turned down or rejected.
3. Something that is folded down, as on a garment.
4. A downturn.
adj.
Being or capable of being turned or folded down: a turndown collar.

[mcrews]

Originally Posted by Christ

It's less obvious this way.

Yeah, you tell em Christ!

icons are for lazy posters....

We must use our english language skill and clearly express - in the least hurtful way - what we mean..........no more softballs....this is the big league.

let ME get you started.........


SUCKS!

noun, adjective, verb, all in one complex yet clear......thought.

[Domman56]

Originally Posted by mcrews

Look, don't piece meal........do the whole thing at one time ....like the guy that owns this caddy....

That's gorgeous

STS turbo set up right?

[mcrews]

Originally Posted by Domman56

That's gorgeous

STS turbo set up right?

no, cts I believe, the newer midsize.
One of the posters in this thread - who's name escapes me- works at a topend muffler shop back east. This pic was on his company's webpage.
It's twin-rear turbos.

[Domman56]

Originally Posted by mcrews

no, cts I believe, the newer midsize.
One of the posters in this thread - who's name escapes me- works at a topend muffler shop back east. This pic was on his company's webpage.
It's twin-rear turbos.

Yeah it looks like a CTS

But by STS i mean Squires Turbo Systems

I'm surprised noone here has them they are rear mounted turbos and often are supposed to increase mileage Never seen any tests on it but it'd be nice to have some research on it

[Christ]

Originally Posted by Domman56

Yeah it looks like a CTS

But by STS i mean Squires Turbo Systems

I'm surprised noone here has them they are rear mounted turbos and often are supposed to increase mileage Never seen any tests on it but it'd be nice to have some research on it

If you're paying, I'll mount it on whatever vehicle you want. Hell, buy me another car, and then pay the $3,000+ premium for a turbo setup that isn't new technology, and isn't a miracle boost system, and doesn't even outperform home-built stuff on some occasions, and I'll go right ahead and toss it on there and report FE back to you.

PS - does anyone else think "IRON" every time you see "FE" in a post?