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Old 12-02-2021, 04:16 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Survival is a pretty low bar.
True. But everything else is mostly pointless without it.

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Old 12-02-2021, 04:22 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Once an easier or more comfortable way is developed, we don't go back.
Becoming anti-social, poor-postured, lard balls in a world that's a continuous natural disaster wouldn't be a more comofrtable way if it happens.

But yes, most people look for the easy way to do everything. Why else are crime rates so high?
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Of great concern is, the unintentional harm to billions, borne of ignorance and indifference to scientific fact, which looms on the horizon.
While otherwise decent folks, it is these folks who stand to destroy humans simply by default, as they 'enjoy the ride.'
A disastrous mistake by Ayn Rand was to create a former, Universal Motors employee, who's chosen separatist ensemble at Galt's Gulch, Colorado, survived and thrived on zero-carbon alternate energy, harvested from the atmosphere.
If you're a fan of Atlas Shrugged, you're a fan of alternate, renewable energy! ( Solar, to be specific ).
Ignorant, irrational, chanting 'green-weenies' are unaware of their own hypocrisy. Easily ignored.
Just like ignorant, irrational, chanting conservatives, unaware of their own hypocrisy.
My poll of one says, we no longer have a democracy. We're not an informed citizenry. And it's money in the bank for those who've guaranteed structural ignorance in the country, monetizing ignorance for the sake of stock prices.
'Damn the thermometers, it's full speed ahead!'
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Of great concern is, the ... disastrous mistake by Ayn Rand was to create a ... fan of Atlas Shrugged, you're ... Easily ignored ... hypocrisy.
Sounds like Ayn Rand is living rent-free in your head.

Agree with you poll of one. But I think they're monetising hatred instead of ignorance. a divided population would be no match for a united but ignorant one.
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How can a libertarian middle class persist under possibly the most authoritarian government, after Australia?



Survival is a pretty low bar.
It's that commi-capitalist hybrid government, predicted by my Political Science professor in 1976.
Xi Jenping is incentivizing rabid consumer capitalism to drug, not only the Chinese, but all who purchase Chinese products in the global marketplace. It was found to be a more potent opiate of the masses than religion. Exquisite social engineering! Workers never see it coming.
When you have disposable income, appetites for the novel are quickly satisfied by those lower on the economic food chain.
Fruit bat bites fruit. Pangolin eats fruit. Wild Meat Market entrepreneur catches pangolin. Yuppy buys pangolin. Yuppy eats pangolin. Viola! COVID-19.
Add commercial airliner. Rinse. Repeat.
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I haven't given Ayn a chance yet, but it's on my bucket list. The size of her fictions is intimidating though. First I want to get through Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.

I'm a huge fan of solar energy. Practically everything I rely on uses it, especially in the super concentrated forms like fossil fuels. I'm hopeful that we can better harness the diffuse and intermittent rays directly one day; but I realize what a challenge that is.
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Sounds like Ayn Rand is living rent-free in your head.

Agree with you poll of one. But I think they're monetising hatred instead of ignorance. a divided population would be no match for a united but ignorant one.
* Public knowledge of certain things could be disastrous to certain parties.
* A good reason to maintain ignorance.
* Congress ( the US Senate ) learned in 1977 not to attempt to help Americans, after attacked by Washington lobbyists, who's handlers would stand to lose untold profits, should Americans get the Senate Select Committee's help.
* Non-education leads Americans to attempt to fill the void left from public educations impotence.
* And industry is at the ready, to provide the unregulated, misinformation, disinformation, whatever, to guarantee that Americans never have access to the facts. Or so bombard the media landscape that, the chances of anyone stumbling onto 'facts' is slim to none. Then, just maintain the lies.
* That's the division trick. Take the facies and turn it into easily-broken sticks.
* 'Follow the money.'
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I haven't given Ayn a chance yet, but it's on my bucket list. The size of her fictions is intimidating though. First I want to get through Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.

I'm a huge fan of solar energy. Practically everything I rely on uses it, especially in the super concentrated forms like fossil fuels. I'm hopeful that we can better harness the diffuse and intermittent rays directly one day; but I realize what a challenge that is.
Just read a bit at a time. They're heroic tales. You may find them irresistible.
Atlas Shrugged is her Opus Magnus.
I've heard good things about Zen and .............................
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Diet and Nutrition - What's for Dinner? The diet of pangolins is fairly simple and straightforward. They are carnivorous animals, usually consuming a wide variety of ant and termite species, but are also able to eat larvae and a few other insects. Although there are hundreds of species of termites, ants and other insects that they can consume, pangolins are somewhat picky when it comes to what ...
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And that was the day that Utilitarians, Objectivists, Communists, and Egoists all united as one: to kill Nietzsche. And also they told him that their group was really hardcore and didn't allow re-rolling characters, so once you died you had to wait outside and not talk.

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Pangolin eats insect which visited same fruit as Fruit Bat?
Point was, some epidemiologists believe that COVID may have originated in a fruit bat, and at some point in the food chain it crossed over into some mammal which ended up in the wild meat market. And consumed by humans.
The specifics are unknown.

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