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Old 11-23-2014, 01:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ford finally releases 2015 EPA ratings

So I think we see why they waited so long, they aren't that big of an improvement. The best possible is 26 highway, I think they were thinking at least 28 to match the Ram if not 30. Next year when they get the new transmissions maybe they will hit 28 but no way they will jump to 30. Now if Dodge would try the aluminum maybe they can hit the 30. I guess it's good news for me because I would have wanted one if it could get 30 highway!
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Old 11-25-2014, 06:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think getting 30 MPG highway would be easy in an F-150, since I believe the EPA ratings include air conditioning. So if you avoid AC, 30 MPG will be easy.

I know this because in the minivan I can get significantly higher MPG with no AC, and my dad says that he can get up to 40 MPG in his V6 Accord without AC.
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I cant wait until some of this tech gets to the full size van line.
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The manufacturers KNOW what the MPG numbers are...THEY produce them and send them to EPA for *verification / validation*...and only THEN can the manufacturers publicly announce them!
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I don't think they'll match the Ram's numbers until Ford brings the Cd of the F-150 down. They haven't published a number, only saying it's an improvement on the outgoing model which was around .40 if I remember right. The Ram is .36 in highway mode (lowered suspension, grill shutters closed).
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Isn't the Ram that gets that a diesel?

I mean, that's great and all- but what would it be with gas? And getting <10% better FE isn't worth paying over 10% more in fuel costs.

But I may not have all of the details, as I'm not really a chrysler fan.
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Isn't the Ram that gets that a diesel?

I mean, that's great and all- but what would it be with gas? And getting <10% better FE isn't worth paying over 10% more in fuel costs.

But I may not have all of the details, as I'm not really a chrysler fan.
Yes, the VM Motori diesel they are using pushes the fe of thier suv's and trucks up to around 30mpg highway. The gas truck gets 25 hwy and the diesel gets 28 hwy.

Fiat/Chrysler will start using direct injection in thier gasoline engines starting in 2016 models so efficiency should increase slightly.
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Isn't the Ram that gets that a diesel?

I mean, that's great and all- but what would it be with gas? And getting <10% better FE isn't worth paying over 10% more in fuel costs.

But I may not have all of the details, as I'm not really a chrysler fan.
Around here the difference between gas and diesel is 20% which places a diesel at 24 MPG gas equivalent cost if the diesel gets 30 mpg highway.

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Isn't the Ram that gets that a diesel?

I mean, that's great and all- but what would it be with gas? And getting <10% better FE isn't worth paying over 10% more in fuel costs.

But I may not have all of the details, as I'm not really a chrysler fan.
The Ram that get 26 mpg or the Ram with low Cda? The HFE Ram with the low Cda is a 3.6 gas motor that is rated 25MPG, the one that is rated 28MPG is the diesel. That V6 Gas Ram is much less expensive then both the diesel, and the 2.7 ecoboost Ford. So a 1 mpg penalty on the Ram isn't bad, but the ecoboost has more power. Here I wouldn't buy a diesel because like you say it costs too much more then unlead, but in California there is hardly a difference.

The full size Ford vans have the option of a small 5 cylinder diesel they need to put in this new F150 but it is a $6000 option on the van, yikes!
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Yes, the VM Motori diesel they are using pushes the fe of thier suv's and trucks up to around 30mpg highway. The gas truck gets 25 hwy and the diesel gets 28 hwy.

Fiat/Chrysler will start using direct injection in thier gasoline engines starting in 2016 models so efficiency should increase slightly.
The dodge v6 (the Pentastar) in everything from minvans, to midsize cars, to Jeeps, and even the Ram is a direct injected motor, has been since it came out in 2011.

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