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Old 04-26-2018, 05:39 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Not just Ford

Other manufacturers recently dropping small cars in favour of CUV's / SUV's...

Fiat/Chrysler: has cancelled the Dart & 200

GM: cancelling Sonic as of 2018 & Spark (2019 is the rumour); cancelled Buick Verano compact sedan a year ago.

Hyundai: cancelled Accent hatchback (sedan remains)

I'm sure there are others on the chhopping block.

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Old 04-26-2018, 05:41 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Ironically, the ads I'm seeing on this page right now are for the 4-door Jeep Wrangler.
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Old 04-26-2018, 06:01 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Boozers? Boosters? Is that pro or con?

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More likely they'll pull the trigger on an emergency sheetmetal package for the Mustang and drop in a 4 cyl from Europe if they have a sudden emergency.
What would be cool is if is a retro-1960 Falcon. The circle of life would be complete. I took Drivers Ed in one.
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Old 04-26-2018, 06:12 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I think the real problem is it doesn't cost that much less to build a small sedan as it costs to build a small crossover. Consumers balk at a $25,000 price tag on a small sedan but pay it on a small crossover. So every small sedan is basically a loss and the old "get them on the lot to upsell the customer" probably doesn't work as well today.
At least in a 3rd-world country like mine, there is demand for both bodystyles. Well, with most of the cheaper cars available here being hatchbacks, even a small sedan may sometimes been regarded somewhat more aspirational than its hatchback counterpart.
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Old 04-26-2018, 06:36 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Mullally must be thinking about this.

I do find it weird. I really think (contrary to some) that Ford had one of the best lineups of what we think of as cars on the market. The Fusion looked and felt baller (I drove a company Fusion, it was quite nice). Focus is getting long in the tooth but nothing a redesign can't handle. Fiesta is already kinda dead and didn't sell well, and I think there's good reason for that. Their hybrids have also been (too) quietly perhaps the second best on the market behind Toyota.

But as much as I've appreciated Ford through the years, I'll ghost them in an instant for this. OK so I was impressed that I averaged mid-30s in a 2.0EB Escape. But I don't want an escape. I want a car. Preferably a convertible or a wagon. An SUV company doesn't do that.
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Old 04-26-2018, 06:47 PM   #26 (permalink)
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It kind of seems like this is proceeding according to plan. They neglect small cars and promote trucks and SUVs. People buy fewer and fewer and then they need to drop them!
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Old 04-26-2018, 06:49 PM   #27 (permalink)
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American automakers: always one step ahead (and yes, that was sarcasm):

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Old 04-26-2018, 07:43 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Focus is getting long in the tooth but nothing a redesign can't handle.
The next gen Focus was just unveiled (Euro spec).

I'm sure they can parachute small cars in from other markets if & when they need to (another energy shock).
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Old 04-26-2018, 11:22 PM   #29 (permalink)
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It kind of seems like this is proceeding according to plan. They neglect small cars and promote trucks and SUVs. People buy fewer and fewer and then they need to drop them!
But they DIDN'T neglect small cars! They spent billions developing them for Duhmericans that didn't want them.

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