Gadgetmangroove

[Arragonis]

Originally Posted by euromodder

You deserve 777 whiplashes for bringing this up ... again.

Only if you put on the leather again

[racprops]

In my research I met and worked with Ron for a couple of weeks.

I can state that in my opinion it is total BS.

I had him do one on my 4.3 Ford, and saw that it did give a feeling of a greater take off, BUT it did so by opening the throttle faster and it also cause a larger use of gas, my FI duty cycle meters give it away, with the grove they read higher for the same TP Readout than stock.

I when to a junk yard and bought a few throttle bodies and tried a few combos…I also took these to a dyno and we ran 4 of my mods and NONE gave me ANY Improvement.

I also help Ron install his grove on my 93 Van, my 91 Toyota, and the owner of the Dyno on his late model Dodge Truck which was the only car we saw any HP improvement and we believed it was because it was a Hemi.(we got 5 HP) He then took a trip over 500 miles and saw no MPG improvement nor did I on all three of my cars.

We even got a guy with a 327 Chevy to do it on his Quad,(Ron kept sawing the computers were missing things up…) and dynoed it and LOST HP.

I have debunked this when every I find it.

My 2 cents.

Rich

[mcrews]

Originally Posted by Arragonis

Only if you put on the leather again

Can we A-B-A test that???????

(With and without leather)

[Arragonis]

Originally Posted by mcrews

Can we A-B-A test that???????

(With and without leather)

Lightweight, I only use leather. And none of your shammy furry handcuffs nonsense this time you old trickster you...

[racprops]

Originally Posted by mcrews

Can we A-B-A test that???????

(With and without leather)

In fact I did I replace the grooved TB with a stock one and returned to stock readings and performance, later i switch the 65MM TB for a 70MM TB and I also upgrade the ECU to a Cop Car model for higher performance which did not hurt my MPG.

Rich

[mcrews]

Originally Posted by racprops

In fact I did I replace the grooved TB with a stock one and returned to stock readings and performance, later i switch the 65MM TB for a 70MM TB and I also upgrade the ECU to a Cop Car model for higher performance which did not hurt my MPG.

Rich

I was referring to mr A's leather fetish.......

[mcrews]

Originally Posted by Arragonis

Lightweight, I only use leather. And none of your shammy furry handcuffs nonsense this time you old trickster you...

And u soooo like those handcuffs last time.......

[racprops]

We felt it was the higher RPM range and slightly better air flow of the Hemi over my Ford and the other cars.

Rich

[deejaaa]

Originally Posted by Arragonis

Someone I know emailed me this ……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=k6mzxPV4ruk

i like at the beginning where he says "here's my shop b#tch".

[deejaaa]

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