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Old 09-11-2013, 01:30 PM   #21 (permalink)
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^^ That's pretty sad. Sometimes playing a victim gets your crackpot ideas perceived legitimacy.

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Old 09-11-2013, 02:47 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Man... what a mess. If I believed his gouge actually did *anything* (which I don't), I'd feel sorry for him being so delusional and paranoid... but his gouge is a fraud and I have to recognize that everything downstream of it is too.
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Old 09-11-2013, 03:54 PM   #23 (permalink)
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And u soooo like those handcuffs last time.......
Yeah, thats what you said about the boxing gloves and celery...
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All I can say is that out of 5 cars we did, him personally doing his grove on all of them, NONE of the cars got any change in mileage.

Only one truck show any improvement in HP on a Dyno. It had a Hemi and high RPMs.

On my Ford with all the testing readouts, I saw the injector duty cycle go up at the same point without the grove they didn't. I saw no change in MPG. I can't remember the excite numbers, but it was something like Throttle Position 20% and duty cycle 30% stock and with the grove TP20% and duty cycle 40%. A jump in fuel used.

All the grove does in my opinion is open your throttle faster than stock and make the car take off faster, it does this by letting in more air and thus more gas, you can get the same reaction by pushing harder on your throttle peddle.

On my van it caused a jump take off with a second later drop off when things tried to run normally, I removed it as soon as I could to rid it of that problem.

I think he really believes it works...and I think most customers do so from the seat of the pants feeling of more power in their own car with the change, IE the car has more power as it takes off faster so IE IT must be making more HP and more HP with the same amount of fuel (wrong..but believable to the layman) SO it must give better MPG.

I think people then expecting better MPG and wanting more MPG self forfill the dream and drive tamer and get better MPG...

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Old 09-11-2013, 04:24 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Its worth checking the comments on the video of this "interview"



At some point in the video he claims people crawling over his house, and everything he sees on his internet connection is filtered - yet the interview is done online and he is able to see the updates, and then claims 120m messages his inbox.

The guy has issues.

The "free energy" guys do well by including all of this.

It is sad though, a personal crisis and destruction played out in plain sight. The guy clearly has drug issues (meth and dope) and some drink issues, maybe.

The guy needs help.

EDIT - they also get it doesn't work
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Gadgetman_Groove
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I think (Sadly) you need to reread that report.

It seems to almost to be written by Ron himself with climes of up to 50% improvements.

Wish I had seen even one such improvement myself. But I didn't.

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Yeah, thats what you said about the boxing gloves and celery...

can't believe you brought up the celery!!!
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Gadgetman Groove Worked on my GM TBI!

I noticed about a 25% decrease in TPS. It did something so to say that it does not work is a fallacy. Admittedly, it probably works best on a wet intake setup...

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I think if anyone "brought it up", it was you...
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I noticed about a 25% decrease in TPS. It did something so to say that it does not work is a fallacy. Admittedly, it probably works best on a wet intake setup...

Lookup Silverado30MPG here on ecomodder
Hmmm - user with only one post but a "full" fuel log ? I'm sure you are just fine but it sets some alarms ringing.

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