12-27-2010, 08:51 PM
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Do you know of any stations near the Oregon / Washington boarder that will sell off-road gasoline that does not contain ethanol?
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The company we worked with no longer has a designation for non ethanol gas. So I think that everything they deal with has ethanol. I think that the only non road use gas that doesn't have ethanol is aviation gas. So you might ask around at your local small airport but your going to pay alot for it. They also aren't supposed to let you pump it into your car.
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12-27-2010, 09:01 PM
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So you might ask around at your local small airport but your going to pay alot for it. They also aren't supposed to let you pump it into your car.
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Not a problem for me. I can transport up to 500 gal in my truck. I just need to find a spot that sells ethanol free fuel, preferably 87-92 PON. |
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12-28-2010, 04:06 AM
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Avgas will kill a cat converter just like that.
I put a 50/50 blend of E85/E10 in tonight- love it!  |
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12-28-2010, 11:43 AM
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Do you know of any stations near the Oregon / Washington boarder that will sell off-road gasoline that does not contain ethanol?
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The Vancouver Oil Company has a station just north of Vancouver, WA (In Salmon Creek) that has E0 regular (they used to have E0 premium, but for some reason it now contains ethanol.) It's just a few miles up I-5 from the Oregon border.
EDIT: Last time I filled up, I think it was about $3.44/gal.
Quite a bit further, but there's a Shell station in Tillamook, OR that has E0 premium. Also one in Bend.
Last edited by slogfilet; 12-28-2010 at 11:47 AM..
Reason: added price info
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12-28-2010, 02:15 PM
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The Vancouver Oil Company has a station just north of Vancouver, WA (In Salmon Creek) that has E0 regular (they used to have E0 premium, but for some reason it now contains ethanol.) It's just a few miles up I-5 from the Oregon border.
EDIT: Last time I filled up, I think it was about $3.44/gal.
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Is that the station close to where I5 and I205 intersect? Do they allow just anyone to fill up there? I was looking into signing up with Vancouver Oil Company just to try out their E0, but if it's open to the public then that saves me the effort.
I sure hope that $3.44 was back when gas prices were higher. I can't justify E0 at that price when E10 can be had at $2.95. |
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12-28-2010, 02:52 PM
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Is that the station close to where I5 and I205 intersect? Do they allow just anyone to fill up there? I was looking into signing up with Vancouver Oil Company just to try out their E0, but if it's open to the public then that saves me the effort.
I sure hope that $3.44 was back when gas prices were higher. I can't justify E0 at that price when E10 can be had at $2.95.
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Yep, right near the 5/205 merge, right behind the La Quinta.
It's open to the public during their office hours: M-F, 7am-5pm. You just have to go in and borrow their counter card, then pay inside.
It is pretty spendy... usually around 10% more than Chevron/Shell regular. $3.44 was in the last week or two. I'm interested to see how their prices will adjust as gas goes up. I've gotten a few tanks just for experimentation, but I might wait until next spring/summer to really test it out. |
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12-28-2010, 06:16 PM
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Avgas will kill a cat converter just like that.
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Not all Avgas has lead.
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12-28-2010, 07:28 PM
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100LL (LL stands for "low lead"  ) in all likelihood the only avgas your local FBO has- will kill the cat just like that. |
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12-28-2010, 07:41 PM
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100LL (LL stands for "low lead" ) in all likelihood the only avgas your local FBO has- will kill the cat just like that. |
So what you're saying is I need to commute by plane...
Why are they allowed to burn lead and not cars? Shouldn't planes be required to have cats if cars have 'em? |
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12-28-2010, 08:32 PM
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The vast majority of the U.S. aviation fleet is OLD, as in, pre-smog. Converting would cost a fortune... just keeping the old stuff in the air costs a fortune the way it is. Air miles are but a fraction of road miles... I spose planes are lumped in with the rest of the off-road stuff that doesn't have to conform to on-road specs.
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