Gas stations without ethanol

[pounsfos]

the whole of new zealand... well the south island anyway, duno about those crazy north islanders

[SuzukiSteve]

Im from KC too. I know of 2 stations in the area, one in leavenworth, and maybe one in Kearney.

HyVee gas station at N Oak and Englewood. $Regular +0.20
BP on 9 Highway about a mile south of Barry Road. $Regular + ~0.35

Im not sure exactly where the one in leavenworth is but they sell regular without ethanol. If you are interested I will ask my boss, he has been there.

The Platte-Clay Fuels in Kearney used to sell premium non-ethanol. have not been there in a long time.

[SentraSE-R]

According to the California Air Resources Board, the Bush-era Federal Energy Policy Act mandates 10% ethanol across the board by 2012. None of us will have a choice then.

[brucepick]

MPG and power output are both down with E10. Simply because a gallon of alcohol contains less energy than a gallon of gasoline.

Growers of corn, and their state governments and trade organizations, think that E10 fuel is great stuff, and E15 even better. They're entitled to their opinion.

Now, where are the free-market Republicans and the Libertarians when we need them? I'm essentially a liberal but this ethanol legislation is just a way to sell corn and drive up it's market price. I say "No fair!".

[conehead433]

I've bought a few tanks of gas that was ethanol free that I found on the Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada link posted earlier. I have found that the listings aren't always accurate though. They may have been ethanol free, but aren't now, seems to be the order of the day. In my 1999 Metro I'm getting about 4 mpg better mileage with pure gas.

[ConnClark]

While working on a project at work for a fuel tanker company I found out locally (in Washington and Oregon) that all road use gasoline has ethanol now. I think I also heard that congress has been pressuring the EPA to up the time table on adoption of the 10% across the board mandate. I think that soon the only gas that won't have ethanol will be aviation gas which unlike other gas is still allowed to use lead.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by ConnClark

While working on a project at work for a fuel tanker company I found out locally (in Washington and Oregon) that all road use gasoline has ethanol now. I think I also heard that congress has been pressuring the EPA to up the time table on adoption of the 10% across the board mandate. I think that soon the only gas that won't have ethanol will be aviation gas which unlike other gas is still allowed to use lead.

Do you know of any stations near the Oregon / Washington boarder that will sell off-road gasoline that does not contain ethanol?

[rmay635703]

Originally Posted by SentraSE-R

According to the California Air Resources Board, the Bush-era Federal Energy Policy Act mandates 10% ethanol across the board by 2012. None of us will have a choice then.

Not exactly, you still have a choice but it will require one of the following
1. A lot of effort
2. A lot of money
3. A diesel

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by rmay635703

Not exactly, you still have a choice but it will require one of the following
1. A lot of effort
2. A lot of money
3. A diesel

I'm considering signing up at the local petrol company here that is part of the CFN network. I'd be willing to pay a very small premium to get straight dino fuel.

[Jim-Bob]

Originally Posted by brucepick

MPG and power output are both down with E10. Simply because a gallon of alcohol contains less energy than a gallon of gasoline.

Growers of corn, and their state governments and trade organizations, think that E10 fuel is great stuff, and E15 even better. They're entitled to their opinion.

Now, where are the free-market Republicans and the Libertarians when we need them? I'm essentially a liberal but this ethanol legislation is just a way to sell corn and drive up it's market price. I say "No fair!".

Well, as one of those Republican/Libertarians I agree with you. I was not a huge fan of Bush as he was too big government for my taste. Then again, while this mandate may not be one of them, many of these mandates are handed down by unelected bureaucrats by decree and not voted on in the legislature at all. Agencies like the EPA have broad powers to enact laws via regulation without oversight by the electorate. If memory serves, that is how we got oxygenated fuels in the first place. As MTBEs were proven to be detrimental to the ground water supply they needed to be replaced by something that wasn't. Hello ethanol and the corn lobby. Is it a good idea? Well... yes and no. It's a solution to a contrived problem but it also creates more problems with food production and cost. I am sure I am not the only one who is feeling the pinch at the grocery store.