Gen 3 Prius vs '12 Cruze Eco

[ksa8907]

I think i have settled on the prius. Just need to find the right one.

Thanks everyone

[ProDigit]

Originally Posted by Old Tele man

I've owned both and the PRIUS is definitely a better FE vehicle. Only the *manual* Cruze Eco model gets decent milage, the 6-speed automatic definitely had problems in the 2011 vehicles.

The only 5 problems with my 2011 cruze automatic are:
1- horrible entertainment system (buttons not working well). Can be changed with a $500 linux one.
2- tardy transmission (can be solved by shifting manually)
3- low performance over 95F ($500 intercooler replacement solves this).
4- exhaust heat radiating through the bottom center (not a problem in cold environments).
5- lousy AC (keeps up to about 85F. If outside is hotter than 95F, it gets uncomfortably hot inside no matter how you point or set the ac and fan)

Mpg wise I also get 34mpg avg, and 55mpg at 55mph.

[gone-ot]

Originally Posted by ProDigit

The only 5 problems with my 2011 cruze automatic are:
1- horrible entertainment system (buttons not working well). Can be changed with a $500 linux one.
2- tardy transmission (can be solved by shifting manually)
3- low performance over 95F ($500 intercooler replacement solves this).
4- exhaust heat radiating through the bottom center (not a problem in cold environments).
5- lousy AC (keeps up to about 85F. If outside is hotter than 95F, it gets uncomfortably hot inside no matter how you point or set the ac and fan)

Mpg wise I also get 34mpg avg, and 55mpg at 55mph.

Sounds like you had better luck than we did with our 2011 Cruze LTZ. Our specific "headache" problems:

1) Transmission randomly "stalled" engine when making tight lefthand corners, such as "U-turn" at intersection...GM couldn't/wouldn't "fix" anything, even though the 2012 transmission 'mysteriously' got a new/different shift-body calibration.
2) The cabin often reeked of antifreeze for no (apparent) reason.
3) The thermostat housing leaked like a sieve...GM repaired it once, but did nothing when the replacement housing/gasket began leaking (but, PEP Boys could fix the problem!!!)
4) The vehicle NEVER got above 32 mpg (and I'm a quasi-hypermiler!).
5) The Z-bar rear axle linkage "clunked" but GM claimed it's normal.
6) The A/C would suddenly quit while driving for no apparent reason; not good when it's 100F+ outside! GM couldn't/wouldn't fix.

GM is no longer on our shopping list for ANY vehicle.

[rmay635703]

Glad I have an xfe cobalt, 52mpg last tank and no components to break

(At times I wish I waited but now I guess I made the right choice)

[ksa8907]

Well since this was revived, I'll chime in with an update.

I kept the cts, 145k miles now trouble free since i bought it at 88k. Some lady rear ended me last month, it was totaled, and i bought it back. So once the paperwork falls i pay the salvage value and get to drive my dream car for $0 monthly payment.

[ProDigit]

Originally Posted by Old Tele man

Sounds like you had better luck than we did with our 2011 Cruze LTZ. Our specific "headache" problems:

1) Transmission randomly "stalled" engine when making tight lefthand corners, such as "U-turn" at intersection...GM couldn't/wouldn't "fix" anything, even though the 2012 transmission 'mysteriously' got a new/different shift-body calibration.
2) The cabin often reeked of antifreeze for no (apparent) reason.
3) The thermostat housing leaked like a sieve...GM repaired it once, but did nothing when the replacement housing/gasket began leaking (but, PEP Boys could fix the problem!!!)
4) The vehicle NEVER got above 32 mpg (and I'm a quasi-hypermiler!).
5) The Z-bar rear axle linkage "clunked" but GM claimed it's normal.
6) The A/C would suddenly quit while driving for no apparent reason; not good when it's 100F+ outside! GM couldn't/wouldn't fix.

GM is no longer on our shopping list for ANY vehicle.

1- never ever had to deal with that, or noticed
2- The coolant smell issue was fixed under my transmission warranty, so I didn't need to pay a penny.
3- I don't even know what you're talking about.
4- i never had it under 34mpg, and used to have 38mpg avg over 3000 miles when we still had a BP station around the corner (bp premium gasoline had 10% better performance. It would read 70mpg at below 40mph in 6th gear.
5- again, not sure what you mean. Never had it on mine.
6- my ac always works, but the compressor is the same one as the sonic and the spark. For the spark it cools too much, for the sonic it works well, for the cruze it can hardly keep up.

[gone-ot]

...and THAT is WHY some people have LEMONS and others have LEMONADES.