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Old 07-04-2012, 06:47 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Frank Lee, how long do you think we will to wait for old mechanic to get a taker

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Old 07-04-2012, 06:55 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I don't know if you read my reply but I don't allow for automatic shut off from the gas station. I fill up to the top of the neck. and the sample size of 30 miles was just the route I took on about 10 tests which all showed between a 10 to 20% increase with HHO. More stringent testing would have been used, but my dad was in town for only about 2 weeks so we didn't have a lot of time for testing. I won 2nd place in my local science fair. All the engineers I spoke with there were highly intrigued and didn't flat out refute my idea. Instead of criticizing everything, they gave suggestions and had open minds to try and figure out what is going on. Cruise control allowed for no placebo. If it was a one time test, I would think it was error, but the test was conducted many times with the same result. But I will definitely go for longer trips now that I am 16 and have my license so I don't have to make my dad drive for hours on end without a destination. Again, I'm just trying to keep an open mind and find an explanation for the results.

Old mechanic- I would love to use a 5 gas exhaust analyzer to compare before and after, but I'm not rich, so I don't have one of those in my garage. I did get the ohio e-check test when I first got my car, but I doubt a comparison 2 years later will be accurate at all, but I when I need to renew it, I will run it through with the HHO running. I'd be real interested in seeing what happens to the emissions. You're probably right about the NOx, I won't know until I try it.
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Frank Lee, how long do you think we will to wait for old mechanic to get a taker
We will all be in nursing homes first.

mwebb is another EMer I believe is fully capable of conducting a believable test. He has offered his services to no avail as well.

The EM "How to Test" and "HHO" threads should be required reading. It would go a long way in preventing further nonsense of this sort.
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:29 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Finally, I am not banned again to post -.-

I want to show you all serious tests soon. I don't get or win ANYTHING if I make you believe this is true, cuz I'm not a seller. But I want to shut up some mouths

So... I'll be back :P

This week I'll do some tests with Diesel Generators.

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Old 07-04-2012, 09:39 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:44 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Today, 12 hours ago, I wrote a post answering to some questions and attacks from some people :P... when I posted, it said that it have to been validated by a Moderator (it never happened -.-)..

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Old 07-04-2012, 09:46 PM   #37 (permalink)
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All the engineers I spoke with there were highly intrigued and didn't flat out refute my idea.
As a professional engineer then: your theory is bad, your application is bad, your testing methods are grotesquely inadequate, and you have absolutely no independent testing.

You also still haven't done your homework which I asked you to do. If this thing works, tell me the science, because so far the only evidence I've been shown for HHO (a NASA paper saying hydrogen improves efficiency, and definitely not HHO), which was easily used to disprove these claims wholeheartedly.

But whatever, most HHO supporters likely throw out all evidence that doesn't support their claims which makes claiming it works ignorant and easy.

"Oh I lost MPG this time...HHO generator must not be working."

Get real.
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But like most HHO supporters you likely throw out all evidence that doesn't support you. "Oh I lost MPG this time...HHO generator must not be working."

Get real.

If you don't believe, it doesn't mean that this doesn't work

Since I installed my HHO Dry Cell, I NEVER returned to original MPGs

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Old 07-04-2012, 09:50 PM   #39 (permalink)
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If you don't believe, it doesn't mean that this doesn't work

Since I installed my HHO Dry Cell, I NEVER returned to original MPGs

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HHO isn't Never Never Land. No matter how much you believe it works, it doesn't, not in the rhelm of conventional science. And once again, where's the science that supports it, and where's the independent testing and actual figures?

No figures, no theory, no science.

Edit: Done with this one; my original writeup hasn't been refuted in any way and its based on sound science. Anyone crossing this thread, enjoy.
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Old 07-04-2012, 10:39 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I agree. Im out. another 20 or so years and Im in mayberry

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