Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Hybrids
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-24-2013, 12:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
Not Doug
 
Xist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Show Low, AZ
Posts: 10,036

Chorizo - '00 Honda Civic HX, baby! :D
90 day: 35.35 mpg (US)

Mid-Life Crisis Fighter - '99 Honda Accord LX
90 day: 32.86 mpg (US)
Thanks: 6,669
Thanked 1,914 Times in 1,456 Posts
Giving the Insight a Good Driver (smoother accelerator response with capacitor)

AutoSpeed - Giving the Insight a Good Driver

I had not heard of this, so I did a search, and there were a few references, but nothing more.

Has anyone tried this?

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 04-24-2013, 02:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 21,771

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 53.56 mpg (US)

Winter beater Metro - '00 Chevrolet Metro
90 day: 61.98 mpg (US)

Fancy Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 58.72 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 66.29 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3,484
Thanked 6,282 Times in 3,251 Posts
Haven't tried it.

But I can tell you it would have been nice to have while trying to hold ~1725 RPM in top gear (no cruise control) while testing the cardboard boat tail.

Many minute & gentle foot adjustments were required to try to stick to that 1725 mark (which lines up with 80 km/h).
__________________
Latest mods: 3-cylinder Mitsubishi Mirage. EcoMods now in progress...
Ecodriving test:
Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2013, 02:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
...beats walking...
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: .
Posts: 6,191
Thanks: 179
Thanked 1,521 Times in 1,122 Posts
RC-smoothing of throttle-position-voltage is a good idea, especially if the throttle position potentiometer is scratchy or worn with age.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2013, 12:38 AM   #4 (permalink)
Not Doug
 
Xist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Show Low, AZ
Posts: 10,036

Chorizo - '00 Honda Civic HX, baby! :D
90 day: 35.35 mpg (US)

Mid-Life Crisis Fighter - '99 Honda Accord LX
90 day: 32.86 mpg (US)
Thanks: 6,669
Thanked 1,914 Times in 1,456 Posts
Would it work with a Civic HX?
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2013, 02:34 AM   #5 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: USA
Posts: 2,643
Thanks: 1,503
Thanked 276 Times in 226 Posts
Old news.... If you read the site for insights there is lots of data on the "throttle smoothing circuit" since 2008. Hell, a few guys make and sell them on ebay.

And the technical term for running rich for a few seconds is a NOX purge cycle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2013, 10:15 AM   #6 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 21,771

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 53.56 mpg (US)

Winter beater Metro - '00 Chevrolet Metro
90 day: 61.98 mpg (US)

Fancy Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 58.72 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 66.29 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3,484
Thanked 6,282 Times in 3,251 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xist View Post
Would it work with a Civic HX?
Only if the HX uses a throttle position sensor as part of its feedback loop for deciding when to exit/enter lean burn.
__________________
Latest mods: 3-cylinder Mitsubishi Mirage. EcoMods now in progress...
Ecodriving test:
Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2013, 04:31 AM   #7 (permalink)
also races Sportbikes!!!
 
SpeedyCorky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Bay Area, California
Posts: 88

Mo' Mon-nay! - '00 Honda Civic HX
90 day: 52.26 mpg (US)

Carbon Silver - '06 Honda Insight
90 day: 82.2 mpg (US)
Thanks: 11
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
yea old news. i've heard it really hurts throttle response. i seem to be able to control the throttle just fine w/o the mod :/
__________________
2000 Honda Civic HX with mild aero mods


2006 Honda Insight
MIMA, FAS, no passenger sideview mirror, race style drivers mirror, front and rear underbody aero, temporary front air dam
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to SpeedyCorky For This Useful Post:
Cobb (04-30-2013)
Old 04-30-2013, 05:42 PM   #8 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: USA
Posts: 2,643
Thanks: 1,503
Thanked 276 Times in 226 Posts
+1 It makes the throttle really lax, so you need to add a switch to turn it off and on as needed or drive with your bare feet.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2013, 07:11 PM   #9 (permalink)
also races Sportbikes!!!
 
SpeedyCorky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Bay Area, California
Posts: 88

Mo' Mon-nay! - '00 Honda Civic HX
90 day: 52.26 mpg (US)

Carbon Silver - '06 Honda Insight
90 day: 82.2 mpg (US)
Thanks: 11
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
lolz funny you should mention the bare foot driving!
since i've started hypermiling, i've only worn slip on/off shoes. loafer kinda things, so they still look respectable for work and stuff. recently went to big 5 and got some shoes for STUPID cheap, all of 'em slip on/off, as to heighten my hypermiling experience! hahaha

its ALL about driving w/o shoes, way better throttle control for MPG driving
__________________
2000 Honda Civic HX with mild aero mods


2006 Honda Insight
MIMA, FAS, no passenger sideview mirror, race style drivers mirror, front and rear underbody aero, temporary front air dam
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2013, 08:32 PM   #10 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: USA
Posts: 2,643
Thanks: 1,503
Thanked 276 Times in 226 Posts
These new cars I just use my big toe. I got nerve damage and cant really feel much with my feet. Of course back in the day you had to realy put all your weight into pushing the petals, but now days you can easily drive with your hands.

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com