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Old 03-04-2014, 10:22 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Thanks for posting the testing results. 2% seems small, but I'll take it.

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Old 03-05-2014, 06:32 PM   #12 (permalink)
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2.25%

If you were seeing 2.25 at 55 mph,then you'd be looking at about a 4.5% drag reduction to explain it.Since it's doing it at 50-mph,then the reduction is even greater,so,shooting from the hip,and considering a generic 12% drag cooling system, it looks like you've cut the cooling drag maybe by half.
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I'd do a full upper then cut into the lower as needed for cooling purposes.
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I notice the biggest improvement in my honda was from 50-70 mph acceleration for merging into traffic. Acceleration was much quicker and it didnt hurt my mpg as much. Of course if your temp starts to go a little high you can always turn on the heater. I also added a bottle of water wetter and used a turkey baster to put the fluid from the rad into the over flow bottle to make room for the additive.
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Old 03-06-2014, 08:33 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I'd do a full upper then cut into the lower as needed for cooling purposes.
Full upper is on the list. I don't think it will take long to do. In fact, the ABA testing took longer to do on the lower block than did installing it!
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I notice the biggest improvement in my honda was from 50-70 mph acceleration for merging into traffic. Acceleration was much quicker and it didnt hurt my mpg as much. Of course if your temp starts to go a little high you can always turn on the heater. I also added a bottle of water wetter and used a turkey baster to put the fluid from the rad into the over flow bottle to make room for the additive.
I have the timing belt coming up in the next few months. I am going to change the coolant at the same time, so I will be sure to add some water wetter. Good idea.
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If you were seeing 2.25 at 55 mph,then you'd be looking at about a 4.5% drag reduction to explain it.Since it's doing it at 50-mph,then the reduction is even greater,so,shooting from the hip,and considering a generic 12% drag cooling system, it looks like you've cut the cooling drag maybe by half.
So, I should be able to cut coolant drag even more by blocking the upper grill too??
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So, I should be able to cut coolant drag even more by blocking the upper grill too??
I believe so.
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I block all but a 2x2 inch square in the summer. I also run the ac which in turn runs the fan on low, so it hovers around 186 degrees all summer long.

When its below 85 degrees out I run a full block year round. Best I can say is get s sg2 or some odb2 reader to watch your water temp and test it.

When this frozen stuff is over Im going to remake a lower air dam out of edging or gutter down spout like I had last year.
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So, I should be able to cut coolant drag even more by blocking the upper grill too??
Hucho says we can get the 12% down to only 2% although it requires elaborate inlet and outlet ducting,the latter being a challenge for production cars which aren't configured for the space necessary for the ducting.
Here is a link to a low drag cooling system by Walter Korff of Lockheed,designer of the 409-mph 'Goldenrod' streamliner.
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