03-04-2014, 10:22 PM
|
#11 (permalink)
|
Batman Junior
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,534
Thanks: 4,082
Thanked 6,979 Times in 3,614 Posts
|
Thanks for posting the testing results. 2% seems small, but I'll take it.
|
|
|
Today
|
|
|
Other popular topics in this forum...
|
|
|
03-05-2014, 06:32 PM
|
#12 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,314
Thanks: 24,440
Thanked 7,386 Times in 4,783 Posts
|
2.25%
If you were seeing 2.25 at 55 mph,then you'd be looking at about a 4.5% drag reduction to explain it.Since it's doing it at 50-mph,then the reduction is even greater,so,shooting from the hip,and considering a generic 12% drag cooling system, it looks like you've cut the cooling drag maybe by half.
__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to aerohead For This Useful Post:
|
|
03-05-2014, 10:03 PM
|
#13 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 838
Thanks: 1,380
Thanked 209 Times in 155 Posts
|
I'd do a full upper then cut into the lower as needed for cooling purposes.
|
|
|
03-05-2014, 11:35 PM
|
#14 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: May 2012
Location: USA
Posts: 2,643
Thanks: 1,502
Thanked 279 Times in 229 Posts
|
I notice the biggest improvement in my honda was from 50-70 mph acceleration for merging into traffic. Acceleration was much quicker and it didnt hurt my mpg as much. Of course if your temp starts to go a little high you can always turn on the heater. I also added a bottle of water wetter and used a turkey baster to put the fluid from the rad into the over flow bottle to make room for the additive.
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Cobb For This Useful Post:
|
|
03-06-2014, 08:33 AM
|
#15 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 468
Thanks: 86
Thanked 87 Times in 54 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyjd
I'd do a full upper then cut into the lower as needed for cooling purposes.
|
Full upper is on the list. I don't think it will take long to do. In fact, the ABA testing took longer to do on the lower block than did installing it!
|
|
|
03-06-2014, 08:47 AM
|
#16 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 468
Thanks: 86
Thanked 87 Times in 54 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobb
I notice the biggest improvement in my honda was from 50-70 mph acceleration for merging into traffic. Acceleration was much quicker and it didnt hurt my mpg as much. Of course if your temp starts to go a little high you can always turn on the heater. I also added a bottle of water wetter and used a turkey baster to put the fluid from the rad into the over flow bottle to make room for the additive.
|
I have the timing belt coming up in the next few months. I am going to change the coolant at the same time, so I will be sure to add some water wetter. Good idea.
|
|
|
03-06-2014, 08:48 AM
|
#17 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 468
Thanks: 86
Thanked 87 Times in 54 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by aerohead
If you were seeing 2.25 at 55 mph,then you'd be looking at about a 4.5% drag reduction to explain it.Since it's doing it at 50-mph,then the reduction is even greater,so,shooting from the hip,and considering a generic 12% drag cooling system, it looks like you've cut the cooling drag maybe by half.
|
So, I should be able to cut coolant drag even more by blocking the upper grill too??
|
|
|
03-06-2014, 09:03 AM
|
#18 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 838
Thanks: 1,380
Thanked 209 Times in 155 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by sarguy01
So, I should be able to cut coolant drag even more by blocking the upper grill too??
|
I believe so.
|
|
|
03-06-2014, 06:08 PM
|
#19 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: May 2012
Location: USA
Posts: 2,643
Thanks: 1,502
Thanked 279 Times in 229 Posts
|
I block all but a 2x2 inch square in the summer. I also run the ac which in turn runs the fan on low, so it hovers around 186 degrees all summer long.
When its below 85 degrees out I run a full block year round. Best I can say is get s sg2 or some odb2 reader to watch your water temp and test it.
When this frozen stuff is over Im going to remake a lower air dam out of edging or gutter down spout like I had last year.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Cobb For This Useful Post:
|
|
03-08-2014, 01:13 PM
|
#20 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,314
Thanks: 24,440
Thanked 7,386 Times in 4,783 Posts
|
even more
Quote:
Originally Posted by sarguy01
So, I should be able to cut coolant drag even more by blocking the upper grill too??
|
Hucho says we can get the 12% down to only 2% although it requires elaborate inlet and outlet ducting,the latter being a challenge for production cars which aren't configured for the space necessary for the ducting.
Here is a link to a low drag cooling system by Walter Korff of Lockheed,designer of the 409-mph 'Goldenrod' streamliner.
Fuel Economy, Hypermiling, EcoModding News and Forum - EcoModder.com - aerohead's Album: Book illustrations - Picture
__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
|
|
|
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to aerohead For This Useful Post:
|
|
|