Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > EcoModding Central
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 03-04-2013, 03:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
40-60-40 MPH P&G
 
echo-francis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: laval, QC
Posts: 277

Echo-P&G - '05 Toyota Echo base
Team Toyota
90 day: 82.76 mpg (US)
Thanks: 45
Thanked 113 Times in 58 Posts
help me design my ajustable grill block

my idea of sliding panel with bike cables have fail because it is very hard to slide when screw on my bumper




it need to be done with things avaliable at home depot, and other stores like that. and I can use my 2 cable bike that are very long, and screw and tape every were I want on my bumper, and I have infinite cloroplast

this is what I am working with:

__________________
Best Tank (1557.2 Km): 2.57 LHK (91.63 MPG (US) )
Best Highway Trip (~36.8 Km): 2.16 LHK (109 MPG (US) )
Best Commute Trip avg (73.8 Km ): 2.33 LHK (101 MPG (US) )
Echo-Troll Modding Thread

I know i dont have a very good write-up
no lean-burn? no good gear ratio? p&g is the answer
MPG=1 TIME=0
  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 03-04-2013, 05:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,234

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 52.07 mpg (US)

Winter beater Metro - '00 Chevrolet Metro
90 day: 61.98 mpg (US)

Fancy Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 58.72 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3,796
Thanked 6,651 Times in 3,446 Posts
Where did you get that long bike cable? How long is it? Is it for gears or brakes?

I was planning the same type of "slider" block in the lower grille of the Insight. One thing I had decided was to make sure the "track" is straight. If it bends/curves at all, you will get friction against the sliding part. That means I have to mount a "flat" assembly in a "curved" grille space.

I was considering using 1/2 inch aluminum angle to make the frame/track. You can get that at Home Depot.
__________________
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: Oops, I did it again! Bought another cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage. Mods in progress...
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2013, 06:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
40-60-40 MPH P&G
 
echo-francis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: laval, QC
Posts: 277

Echo-P&G - '05 Toyota Echo base
Team Toyota
90 day: 82.76 mpg (US)
Thanks: 45
Thanked 113 Times in 58 Posts
i combine 2 bike gear cable from canadien tire with a 1/32 metal cable from home depot
__________________
Best Tank (1557.2 Km): 2.57 LHK (91.63 MPG (US) )
Best Highway Trip (~36.8 Km): 2.16 LHK (109 MPG (US) )
Best Commute Trip avg (73.8 Km ): 2.33 LHK (101 MPG (US) )
Echo-Troll Modding Thread

I know i dont have a very good write-up
no lean-burn? no good gear ratio? p&g is the answer
MPG=1 TIME=0
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2013, 06:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
(:
 
Frank Lee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: up north
Posts: 12,761

Blue - '93 Ford Tempo
Last 3: 27.29 mpg (US)

F150 - '94 Ford F150 XLT 4x4
90 day: 18.5 mpg (US)

Sport Coupe - '92 Ford Tempo GL
Last 3: 69.62 mpg (US)

ShWing! - '82 honda gold wing Interstate
90 day: 33.65 mpg (US)

Moon Unit - '98 Mercury Sable LX Wagon
90 day: 21.24 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,585
Thanked 3,546 Times in 2,215 Posts
As someone who used to design systems for extreme winter conditions, I've never liked "sliding" things, preferring simple pivots whenever possible. They're much more robust and less susceptible to ice, mud, misalignments, etc.
__________________


  Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2013, 08:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: PA
Posts: 10
Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
No bike cables

I agrre with Frank about the coax "choke" cables. Given a little time they get harder and harder to work.

Take a look at this fascinating article about power transmission systems that often pumped oil wells as much as a MILE away from the steam engine that powered them.

http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2013/...e-systems.html

I just learned that I'm not allowed to post the link because I haven't been real active here lately. It's in "lowtech magazine" under "the-mechanical-transmission-of-power-jerker-line-systems"

We probably could use some of the same concepts to operate the sliding openings in a grill block.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2013, 08:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,234

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 52.07 mpg (US)

Winter beater Metro - '00 Chevrolet Metro
90 day: 61.98 mpg (US)

Fancy Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 58.72 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3,796
Thanked 6,651 Times in 3,446 Posts
Frank: you've got a point there. How would you do it?

I've thought about the slider: it can have thinner packaging than a door or shutter approach. Probably easier to make, too. And when open, it's out of the way.

Worst case scenario, you get out of the car and push the slider open.
__________________
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: Oops, I did it again! Bought another cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage. Mods in progress...
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2013, 08:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,234

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 52.07 mpg (US)

Winter beater Metro - '00 Chevrolet Metro
90 day: 61.98 mpg (US)

Fancy Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 58.72 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)
Thanks: 3,796
Thanked 6,651 Times in 3,446 Posts
Wobblybob: you'll be able to post links after 5 posts.
__________________
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: Oops, I did it again! Bought another cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage. Mods in progress...
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2013, 08:33 PM   #8 (permalink)
(:
 
Frank Lee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: up north
Posts: 12,761

Blue - '93 Ford Tempo
Last 3: 27.29 mpg (US)

F150 - '94 Ford F150 XLT 4x4
90 day: 18.5 mpg (US)

Sport Coupe - '92 Ford Tempo GL
Last 3: 69.62 mpg (US)

ShWing! - '82 honda gold wing Interstate
90 day: 33.65 mpg (US)

Moon Unit - '98 Mercury Sable LX Wagon
90 day: 21.24 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,585
Thanked 3,546 Times in 2,215 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
Frank: you've got a point there. How would you do it?

I've thought about the slider: it can have thinner packaging than a door or shutter approach. Probably easier to make, too. And when open, it's out of the way.

Worst case scenario, you get out of the car and push the slider open.
I'd look at the door or shutter approach. Usually there is room for it.

I was referring to the block itself, not the cable. When cables act up it's usually due to lack of lube, or a kink, both of which are easily rectified.
__________________


  Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2013, 08:46 PM   #9 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: PA
Posts: 10
Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Yeah Frank, I realized that after posting my comment. (It' s still a fascinating, if irrelevant, article about the jerker systems.) Sorry about that.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2013, 09:39 AM   #10 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
basjoos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Upstate SC
Posts: 1,073

Aerocivic - '92 Honda Civic CX
Last 3: 70.54 mpg (US)

AerocivicLB - '92 Honda Civic CX
Team Honda
90 day: 55.14 mpg (US)

Camryglide - '20 Toyota Camry hybrid LE
90 day: 65.31 mpg (US)
Thanks: 11
Thanked 642 Times in 289 Posts
Instead of slides, the grill block on my car rotates a vented section of 4" PVC pipe to expose or block the radiator opening. Advantage of this method is 2" of actuator cable travel can manipulate a large amount of radiator opening (in mine, one actuator controls 2 linked 2" x 11" blocked openings).

__________________
aerocivic.com
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread


Thread Tools




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com