11-07-2014, 05:56 PM
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I'd look around some more... basic 5-lug kit is only $400:
Alloy USA Complete Mustang 5-Lug Conversion Kit - 28 Spline KIT (87-93 5.0L) - Free Shipping
And if you are fine junkyard scrounging, you can probably cut that in half.
These are simple cars with cheap, plentiful parts. The high-dollar stuff is not much of an improvement over the cheap parts.
For $1600, you could probably find a beater SN95 Mustang and get your brakes, lower gears, and 5-lug conversion all at once!
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I want 31 spindle, not 28. I also don't want used parts, unless I physically have a mechanic with me so I don't forget anything. That's my main delema.
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That's a lot of money. I could sell my Civic twice over to fund that!
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I could buy 3 POS KIA's for that!!
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Haha that's nothing, 185 AFR heads are ~1700, 331 Stroker kit is ~1,000, 1,600 for brake conversion, 250 for 3.73 rear end, 75mm throttle body is 300, etc etc. I think total for what I'm going to spend in the end (minus labor) is going to be around 10k. It's less than 1/3 what I would pay for a new mustang, and I'll have the body style I like. Everything after 93 I hate, so yea.
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11-07-2014, 06:22 PM
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hey figured i would share some info with you since your workin on a ford.
these engines are kind of funny bc of the simple sort of electronics they used
i found this out on my own, and i share it with anyone who works on these engines:
all of the following can be removed easily with out upsetting the computer. the only thing the computer cares about is if the vacuum modules and other feed back sensors are plugged into the harness. you can remove the egr, all the crap for the air injection, all the goofy vacuum stuff (but make sure you keep vacuum going to your dash for your air vent controls), the air pump, the cat, all of it can be removed without upsetting the computer, as long as every single electrical "thing" is plugged into the harness. this really makes for alot more room in the engine bay and a lot simpler motor. its way easier to keep it clean too. i have some old pics somewhere i might show you if you want. but when i got rid of all that crap that does absolutely nothing important for performance or fuel economy i was very satisfied. probly 150 lbs all of the above parts removed. they were literally pumping in air before the cat to help burn un burned fuel, and pumping air in after the cat so that the emissions were "cleaner" or just adulterated with air to look cleaner. also look at your intake hoses and get rid of the velocity stacks between the throttle body and the air filter. they choke the engine big time with those.
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11-07-2014, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Sven7
That's a lot of money. I could sell my Civic twice over to fund that!
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Originally Posted by dirtydave
I could buy 3 POS KIA's for that!!
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Am I in the wrong place? I spent two Svenmobiles and two Davemobiles for my car!
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11-07-2014, 06:31 PM
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I want 31 spindle, not 28. I also don't want used parts, unless I physically have a mechanic with me so I don't forget anything. That's my main delema.
Haha that's nothing, 185 AFR heads are ~1700, 331 Stroker kit is ~1,000, 1,600 for brake conversion, 250 for 3.73 rear end, 75mm throttle body is 300, etc etc. I think total for what I'm going to spend in the end (minus labor) is going to be around 10k. It's less than 1/3 what I would pay for a new mustang, and I'll have the body style I like. Everything after 93 I hate, so yea.
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stroker kit? A turbo setup will give you 3x the power
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11-07-2014, 06:53 PM
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stroker kit? A turbo setup will give you 3x the power
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I hate Turbos on big engines. I want all motor. A.K.A old school.
Problem is, I live in Cali, and they are very strict on smog here. I don't fancy paying 200$ every 2 years to pass smog, so I gotta keep it smog legal.
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11-07-2014, 07:11 PM
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When were turbos invented?
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11-07-2014, 08:09 PM
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I want 31 spindle, not 28. I also don't want used parts, unless I physically have a mechanic with me so I don't forget anything. That's my main delema.
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I think it's easier to get everything you need when you get a used assembly vs new
Skip the throttle body, terrible on the street. #1 worst "why didn't you just set you're money on fire?" mod I've seen in action. Makes 1/4 throttle feel like half throttle, and 3/4 to full feels like no change u till you're almost revved out. If you already have more torque, lower gear ratio, you don't want a touchier throttle
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11-07-2014, 08:14 PM
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I think it's easier to get everything you need when you get a used assembly vs new
Skip the throttle body, terrible on the street. #1 worst "why didn't you just set you're money on fire?" mod I've seen in action. Makes 1/4 throttle feel like half throttle, and 3/4 to full feels like no change u till you're almost revved out. If you already have more torque, lower gear ratio, you don't want a touchier throttle
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I plan on dragging this car at the salt flats eventually though ;-;.
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11-07-2014, 08:27 PM
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Then I'll second ksa8907... Stroker kit?
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11-09-2014, 03:40 PM
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If you haven't already, check the timing. They were supposed to be set at 8 degrees advanced from the factory, but they always seemed to be around 4-6 degrees when we used to get our hands on them in "stock" condition. Depending on the quality of gas you use and the heat range of spark plugs, you can usually bump it up to aound 12 degrees advanced, but if you don't want to do that at least make sure it's where it was supposed to be set at the factory.
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