08-06-2013, 05:09 PM
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The opposing view would be that it must be the free market that provides these things.
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08-06-2013, 07:49 PM
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I don't trust any of those "miracle" free-energy devices. Well, there was a Greek philosophist who used to say that nothing could be created, altough everything is transformed (it also applies to energy). But after watching a handheld Sterling motor which converted body heat into motion energy, who never lurked about a similar device to be matched to an alternator?
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...must be something from our Gobberment because they're the only entity that makes "free" stuff available to undeserving people.
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LMAO
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08-06-2013, 08:23 PM
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i think i saw one of the ''engines'' that you say, but, just on the internet, and even if it were real you couldn't aproach that ''energy'' ''generated'' in a electric or mechanical way. cos i saw that they need lot of speed to ''start'' in a mechanical way transfered by a chain to rear wheels (the most less braking way) then you will need a clucht that could be centrifugal/manual... then make that engine spin (¿how?) to high revolutions with some kind of heavy flywheel (to be able to spin the wheel,becouse it have no torque) and touch the clutch... but now every little spin of it will consume a lot of friction, that gets worse whit the chain, worse with the clutch, and worse with the flywheel (and the vehicle wheight)...but all that is simple to solve if your engine really works good : D
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08-06-2013, 08:41 PM
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Well, eventually a Sterling motor to drive a cooling fan with thermal engine recovered from the radiator, or an alternator with exhaust heat, would be the most realistic way to recover some "free" energy.
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08-06-2013, 10:09 PM
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yes ''free'', no free XD ... 30% of the heat of the engines goes to the radiator, and other 30% skips from the exhaust... with the a/c, alternator, water pump, you just keep with a max of 22% of the engine heat power, of those 22% 15 is consumed by the gearbox, 4% the rest of trans and something of 10-15% from wheels, then you have something of 17% of the engine converted to movement and at 60mph you just have 4% more in your nice box of 60 hp XD...
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08-06-2013, 11:20 PM
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If you could make a free energy device, why would you bother putting it in a car? you wouldn't need to go any where at that point, everyone would come to you to bask in your awesomeness!
But really, if you want plans for a free energy device, just send me $100 and I'll tell you how to build the best one out there.
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08-07-2013, 04:47 PM
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If you could make a free energy device, why would you bother putting it in a car? you wouldn't need to go any where at that point, everyone would come to you to bask in your awesomeness!
But really, if you want plans for a free energy device, just send me $100 and I'll tell you how to build the best one out there.
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Check's in the mail dude!
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08-15-2013, 05:09 PM
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Amateurs. I just use a solar cell to power the light bulb that shines on it.
Don't be jealous.
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08-15-2013, 06:57 PM
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...must be something from our Gobberment because they're the only entity that makes "free" stuff available to undeserving people.
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Could be any business; they make free stuff available to their execs. The more highly compensated the exec, the less of their own money they actually have to shell out for anything.
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08-16-2013, 04:15 PM
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Working on an electric car that runs on free energy. Similar to how bumper cars work. Hook an extension cable cord out the top of the engine bay and run off the power lines. OK, it's not 'free' energy. But it'll be free for me!
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