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Old 06-21-2015, 02:57 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Just like the current ones look at us as "tree hungers" "granola eaters" "tofu eaters" "vegetarians" etc etc. To the masses that's how we are viewed.
Actually most don't. The majority of the population is very interested in efficiency of resource use - water, electricity, cooling, warming, fuel - because it costs money. And also everyone wants to boast how they are saving money so everyone is an "engineer".

The "tofo knitting, yurt dwelling..." accusation comes along when the efficiency issue is wrapped up with something else such as CAGW or anti fracking or something else which maybe others take a different view of.
At that point any really useful message that might have been sent is lost in a debate about something else, which in itself is a waste of time.

I find it amazing that all those "communicators" and "evangalists" out there don't get this.

I suspect it may happen here, again.

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...It's one of the biggest reason my wife and I don't even want to consider having kids.
Not everyone has thought this way in the past. You wouldn't know though from what is tapped nowadays, even on this very thread.

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Old 06-21-2015, 03:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The 4 sons of my parents, produced a total of 3 sons. Myself (#2) and #3 have no children. Personally, 50 years ago, I did not think the human race would make it to my 100th birthday in 2050.

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Old 06-21-2015, 09:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I can just imagine a not so distant future, in which kids will wonder how that people had no moral guilt over letting their vehicles pump out poison gas while sitting still.
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But, all to often it's the opposite, and I wouldn't doubt if gas guzzlers become collector cars because of their rarity, and gasoline vehicles become something desirable over an electric.
Grandchildren? Why not ask them.

Three or four generations out, though, privately owned/operated vehicles will be lumped in with horses and ox-carts. Assuming the petroleum industry hasn't crashed the whole of human society.

Those gas-guzzlers will have to be retuned to run on Vodka.
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Old 06-22-2015, 03:58 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I don't think anyone will remember the whos and whats.

Best case scenario, fusion happens. Massive biofuel reclamation of waste happens. We have smart microbes scrubbing carbon from the atmosphere to build solar arrays, while others eat our plastic and turn it into something else.

Ecomodders will be viewed as nothing more than a blip. A curiosity caused by dino-oil.

Worst case scenario, oil crash. Nothing to replace it but industrially farmed biofuels and wholesale forest clearing to power ships and lights. Ecomodders don't exist. No one can afford to drive, anymore. We'll all be sitting at home complaining about the high prices of goods over what's left of the internet.
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Can't speak for Generation Future but I don't think much of the so-called "Greatest Generation"; as a group, a bunch of exploiters who's main hobby was reproducing.
Well, reproducing and firebombing anyone who didn't call them the "Greatest Generation." Really, they just had a chip on their shoulder from growing up in the depression... And a lot more steel to exploit than some other members of their age cohort.
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Humans in the near future will probably think it wasteful to let engines idle at stoplights, but not because of the pollution--it will be an economic decision.
Many new cars shut themselves off at idle and the owners don't even know it. A 30second discussion of the feature is out of their mind by the end of the 30 seconds and they sit at a light fat, dumb and happy having no idea where the engine it or that is has wonderful features that are saving the owner drops of fuel the entire time they are sitting at red lights.
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Aren't you a cheery bunch? Well, I guess that I will look for happiness on Reddit. On second thought, I had better not!
May I ask why [not]?

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Don't think of reddit as one giant community. This site is made up of "sub"reddits, which are all their own communities. Every single post you see on this site belongs to its own community, with its own set of users, and with its own set of rules. reddit provides you an easy-to-use interface for managing what posts you see by letting you subscribe or unsubscribe from certain subreddits.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/2by6wr/reddit_101/

Try /r/Futurology or /r/technology

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niky -- Best case scenario: Terra Preta and geodesic domes. Solar energy cheaper than fossil fuels. Social anarchism as the predominate political system. Bitcoin.
And here's a worst-case scenario to chew on. Food for thought (Ha ha! Heh...oh, I kill me).
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:38 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Market forces should force us to give up or curtail beef consumption by then. Food is already an issue, simply because people can't afford to either buy it or grow it in certain areas.

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niky -- Best case scenario: Terra Preta and geodesic domes. Solar energy cheaper than fossil fuels. Social anarchism as the predominate political system. Bitcoin.
I could go for solar-powered hippie communes -sash- mini-arcologies, separated by vast tracts of natural land, connected by wireless communication. Travellers moving between them in lightweight methane-electric buggies.

Bitcoin, or something similar, is probably the way to go for secure electronic currency, but it's a tremendous waste of computing resources (for now). Eventually, there will be a more efficient way to generate virtual currency, but then again, we spend untold millions of dollars in electricity and hardware to watch cat videos online, so it's all relative.

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