06-07-2021, 08:25 PM
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Arizona gets lots of forest fires.
There used to be a billboard claiming that the Rodeo-Chediski fire was caused by terrorists. Sure, it was started by a trespasser with a Sprint phone in Verizon country--and fanned by a news chopper--but people always say the fire would have been fire contained vastly easier had they been able to do preventative burns, but environmentalists successfully campaigned against it.
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06-08-2021, 02:13 AM
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I think just about everyone on here would agree most if not virtually all self proclaimed "environmentalists" act on feelings, ignore logic, proven practices, don't even understand or grasp even merit badge level forestry.
The stupid environmentalists don't understand the difference between a cultural burn and a wild fire, just all fire is bad.
I have been giving the wood chipper a work out with dry branches and dead saplings.
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06-08-2021, 10:12 AM
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Arizona has many trees species which feature a flammable sap. Where do you think turpentine, varnish comes from?
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06-08-2021, 05:41 PM
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I look forward to trashing California environmental hubris when the entire state is on fire here in about 2 weeks.
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06-09-2021, 10:33 AM
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Might not have to wait the full two weeks, there's fire watch weather right now.
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06-09-2021, 11:59 AM
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California's fires are caused by Republican CO2
There's a difference between a true environmentalist and a Pristine Earth believer. One understands environments should be maintained and engineered to balance human interests with conserving habitats for other creatures, and the other views humanity as an anathema to Gaia, and human habitat as sin against a righteous planet.
The troubling thought to me is that if there existed a technology that could destroy all of humanity, there would be thousands if not millions of people that would push that button.
That technology will likely be accessible to individuals at some point, especially considering the ease at which genetic engineering tools are likely to be developed.
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06-09-2021, 04:37 PM
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That would be like self-driving cars: "I want to kill off everyone else, but I don't want anything to change for me!"
(I always see people saying it would be okay to make everyone else drive self-driving cars, but they don't trust them)
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06-09-2021, 04:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xist
That would be like self-driving cars: "I want to kill off everyone else, but I don't want anything to change for me!"
(I always see people saying it would be okay to make everyone else drive self-driving cars, but they don't trust them)
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Rules for thee but not for me; it's human nature.
That's the brilliance of the concept of English Common Law and the Magna Carta; that it attempted to subject everyone to the same rules.
Having a Great Leader (or ruling class) is human nature, but it's dysfunctional and needs citizens that are awake to prevent it from developing. Both US political parties have continually consolidated power to the Executive branch due to our inclination towards a Great Leader instead of Federalism.
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07-04-2021, 07:00 PM
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It's almost that time of year again.
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07-09-2021, 01:42 AM
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You better get your asbestos suits ready.
Cal fire (the prime example of turning forest fire fighting into a business model) says that from January 4 to July 4, 2020 that 50 square miles burned.
This year (year of the plandemic) from Jan 4 to July 4 so far 115 square miles has burned.
According to BLM, the government agency, 90% of those forest fires are started by people (idiots burning stuff, arson with malicious intention, dragging trailer chains, grossly overloaded power lines sagging and sparking, ect) but it's climate change...
If you live up close to the woods buy a chainsaw, don't kill your self with it and level everything.
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1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
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