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Old 04-23-2015, 01:35 PM   #61 (permalink)
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So because a few people are too ignorant to start a fire, the epa should control back yard BBQs and no one is doing anything about the worlds largest gas leak because the Koch brothers are lobbying congress to ignore it?

And I thought I was crazy.

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Old 04-23-2015, 02:45 PM   #62 (permalink)
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So because a few people are too ignorant to start a fire, the epa should control back yard BBQs and no one is doing anything about the worlds largest gas leak because the Koch brothers are lobbying congress to ignore it?
It's not a case of only one or the other, you know. They are independent.

Exactly why do you think no one is working on the New Mexico gas thing? This is the way science works: you find something surprising, you tell people about it, then later on someone - maybe you, maybe someone else - discovers more, others start to fix the problem if it needs fixing. Life isn't an effing TV show, or even a movie, where everything is neatly wrapped up just in time for the closing credits to roll.

Maybe you think they should have done some sort of cover-up instead?

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Old 04-23-2015, 03:52 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Cover ups are inherent of people running the government not wanting to do their job properly. I don't see how the government could have created this gas leak.

If the EPA is so under funded you would think they would have incentive to find the gas leak and fine the company that is responsible out of existence.

This isn't a science and discovery problem, unless its naturally occurring.
If its man made then its an environmental problem that can be fixed by use of government force through shut downs and fines.

The only potential down side to finding out that its natural is it could have been happening for thousands if not millions of years and then the only conclusion you are left with is that methane is not nearly as bad for the environment as what global warming alarmist would have you believe.
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Backyard barbecues can produce a lot of unpleasant emissions, especially if the person using it doesn't know how to start a fire without a quart or so of charcoal lighter. If you live nearby, or even in a second-floor apartment above the barbecue (as many people do in cities), you get the full benefit of thosf emissions.
I'm trying to catch up. Do I have this right? We go from a link to an article on gas grills to third world cooking methods that can be improved (for a nominal fee) to charcoal lighter fluid.

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So because a few people are too ignorant to start a fire, the epa should control back yard BBQs and no one is doing anything about the worlds largest gas leak because the Koch brothers are lobbying congress to ignore it?
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Exactly why do you think no one is working on the New Mexico gas thing? This is the way science works: you find something surprising, you tell people about it, then later on someone - maybe you, maybe someone else - discovers more, others start to fix the problem if it needs fixing. Life isn't an effing TV show, or even a movie, where everything is neatly wrapped up just in time for the closing credits to roll.
I thought it was CSI: EPA SEAL Team 6. Or does the EPA not really have teams on standby to respond immediately every time a report hits the news about some pollution?
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruitland_Formation
Or Google search "Fruitland outcrop".
We already know Google actively dodges "denier results" so it's pretty bad when they can't even hide it.

Turns out it's natural and has been off gassing for at least a few million years.

As the believerslike to say:
"It's settled science"

I like how the so called environmentalists just went straight to blaming man's activities with out making any effort to find the cause and were all like "there is a huge methane cloud over NM, we need to do something about it right now, even if it has nothing to do with the methane cloud or finding out the source". (That pretty much sums up the narrative)

You know if you fail to identify a problem there is no chance of fixing it.

Or its man made and some how 3 years later no one has been able to figure out where it's coming from. But, I don't even know how this could still be considered as a possibility.
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"Huge Methane Cloud" over NM ... does it coincide with the mid-term political speeches?
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Companies associated with the San Juan Basin area natural gas operations are:
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"Huge Methane Cloud" over NM ... does it coincide with the mid-term political speeches?
It coincides with we put a satellite up and as soon as the methane cloud wad seen the envmentalists wackos went straight to blaming the entire emission man's activities and made no attempt to find the source.

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