Hydrogen Engine

[arcosine]

closed cycle steam engine

[tf4624]

Originally Posted by arcosine

closed cycle steam engine

Nice im guessing your thinking of preventing vapor lock in the fuel line..?
Steerling engine...

[dcb]

Why not just sift out the tiniest hydrogen atoms and use those?

[tf4624]

Originally Posted by dcb

Why not just sift out the tiniest hydrogen atoms and use those?

Thats what your doing with electrolysis and you have have bot atoms Hydrogen and Oxygen

[euromodder]

Originally Posted by tf4624

As there is potential energy in the water molecule that you must extract and you can do it while having higher efficientcy

Water - being a rather stable molecule - has a LOW energy state.

A lot of energy is set free when water is formed, generally as heat.
This means it also becomes rather hard (read : energy consuming) to split water into hydrogen and oxygen again.

[euromodder]

Originally Posted by tf4624

Thats what your doing with electrolysis and you have have bot atoms Hydrogen and Oxygen

In the real world you'd have to put in more energy than you can effectively get out again.

[tf4624]

Originally Posted by euromodder

In the real world you'd have to put in more energy than you can effectively get out again.

And from what you saying.. Have an example since where talking about Hydrogen... Like to see your thinking on this topic..

[dcb]

Originally Posted by tf4624

Thats what your doing with electrolysis and you have have bot atoms Hydrogen and Oxygen

Ah, so really all you have to do is figure out the probability that any given molecule will have its valence cloud at its lowest energy level (smallest), then you can use plain old finite improbability to transport them to the container vessel.

[UFO]

Originally Posted by dcb

Ah, so really all you have to do is figure out the probability that any given molecule will have its valence cloud at its lowest energy level (smallest), then you can use plain old finite improbability to transport them to the container vessel.

How many moles of water molecules do you have to sift to find one that's not in it's lowest energy state? And once you find it to electrolyze, can it be done? I think Heisenburg will have something to say about it...

The mind reels.

[tf4624]

Originally Posted by UFO

How many moles of water molecules do you have to sift to find one that's not in it's lowest energy state? And once you find it to electrolyze, can it be done? I think Heisenburg will have something to say about it...

The mind reels.

sifting it down that much I don't think will make any more but make the process easier i believe