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Old 10-07-2009, 02:09 PM   #11 (permalink)
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It would be great for manufacturers to offer FE-centric packages for their cars. At least that way they'd still sell lots of the same model and let the people that care about FE buy the packages. Then they could track just how many people are actually interested in the FE and then possibly design an FE car and see how that sells.

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Old 10-07-2009, 04:30 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Is it just a sedan? Or will it also be available in hatchback form?
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Old 10-07-2009, 05:00 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Unfortunately the wagon does not get this treatment. 23/31 mpg vs 26/35 for the sedan in blue. (fueleconomy.gov)
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Old 10-07-2009, 06:11 PM   #14 (permalink)
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The elantra wagon is just a rebadged Kia Ceed that already received the FE treatment. Its only a matter of time before they offer it to the US market.
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I've always thought that the Koreans are positioned with a golden opportunity to to upstage everyone else: because they don't currently have any hybrids in their lineups, they can offer inexpensive high-mpg "conventional" cars without fear of cannibalizing sales.

Honda and Toyota can't just keep upping the MPG of their entry level cars in response to the Koreans because at some point, they'll start to threaten the sales of their more expensive hybrids.
Honda, Toyota etc already fear those Koreans.... Japanese Automakers: Hyundai Biggest Threat

I keep hearing in the news that Hyundai is about the only car company that is improving sales numbers right now... and they are doing it by taking market share from others. And the others will have to change because of it.

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Old 10-07-2009, 08:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Honda, Toyota etc already fear those Koreans.... Japanese Automakers: Hyundai Biggest Threat

I keep hearing in the news that Hyundai is about the only car company that is improving sales numbers right now... and they are doing it by taking market share from others. And the others will have to change because of it.

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Yeah, I used to call Kia "the new Hyundai" for when they entered the auto market in the mid 1980's. But Kia seems to be improving a lot faster than Hyundai did. People need to understand that Hyundai was already a huge manufacturer before it got into the car biz.

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Some of the best-known Hyundai divisions are Hyundai Motor Company - the world's 4th largest automaker[1] and one of the The Asian Four (with Toyota, Honda and Nissan)[2], Hyundai Heavy Industries - the world's largest shipbuilder, and Hynix - a top semiconductor manufacturer. Other companies currently or formerly controlled by members of Chung's extended family may be loosely referred to as a part of the Hyundai chaebol.
Hyundai Group underwent a massive restructuring following the 1997 East Asian financial crisis and the founder's death in 2001. Today many companies bearing the name Hyundai are legally unrelated to the Hyundai Group. Some of the larger former members of the conglomerate include Hyundai Group, Hyundai Kia Automotive Group, Hyundai Department Store Group, Hyundai Heavy Industries Group, and Hyundai Development Group.
Hyundai's got big pockets. I didn't know that Kia and Hyundai were so closely related.

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Festivas are re-badged Kias, and they were good quality cars.
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I am just glad they used "Blue". If I here much more of "Green this" and "Green that", I am going to blow "Green" chunks.
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Festivas are re-badged Kias
Aspire is also a re-badged Kia. Not flashy, not aerodynamic, but a very dependable econobox- and it is *blue*!!!

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