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Old 04-02-2015, 01:43 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I'll make it more clear, since my camaro is pretty modified I wanted it to be my fast car and weekend toy.

Thinking you are making your 1996 Honda civic faster by putting a loud muffler and exhaust system on it just baffles me. But again as a mechanic I value the vehicle for what it is.

What is really retarded is you can buy an ls1 drivetrain with ecu and trans for $2300, and if you wanted to swap a 210hp integra motor into a civic you would pay the same price if not more.
Or you do what my Nephew and I did, buy a Integra with 300k. Pull the head off, put some valve seal's in it and clean the crap out of it. Install some used $40.00 head studs with a new $70.00 ebay bought MLS gasket. Buy a used four puck $60.00 ebay clutch setup with p-plate. Some piece of crap $125.00 ebay turbo manifold with a $300.00 ebay turbo FMIC kit. New $300.00 set of 98lbs injectors. Get a used Chinese knock off 60-1 turbo for $250.00 and run a free version of CROME with a new $175.00 Moates Ostrich.
Used innovate LM1 WB with gauge for $50.00 STR Intake used $125.00.
Ebay waste gate and BOV $300.00. Ebay half radiator used $50.00
A few other parts but right at $2000.00 in modifications.
Took it to the track almost every weekend for a whole Summer and the car with my slicks ran 10.90 @ 132 mph with pump premium and a splash of VP C16. This was with a full interior at stock weight. He drove to and from the track and to work everyday. Plus a ton of miles just out joy riding with his friends. The car would get around 30 mpg combine and 36 mpg freeway. The stock rod/piston engine lasted after he sold it for another 5 years with two different owners without one issue.



So if you know how to shop for good used parts and know how to tune, you can build a fairly fast Honda on a budget.

My Sons Civic with a stock D15 13.4 @ 112mph. Under $1000.00 in engine mods.


My Civic I sold to my Nephew, stock B16 11.9 @ 125 MPH. Under 1500.00 in engine mods.


Sons Friends Civic stock D16Z6 12.8 @122 mph. Under 1500.00 in engine mods.


Sons Civic stock Foreign exchange D16 12.8@ 120 MPH. Under $1500.00


My Del Sol built Vitara D16 Z6 build 508 whp. Under $3000.00

My first Honda build Civic built D16Z6. Under $3000.00 in engine mods
11.3 @ 135 MPH

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Let's be clear again - those are Hondas done right. We're talking about the kids who would put a spoiler and a body kit (extra weight) and a fartcan on the car and expect their DX to be something other than the economy car that it is.
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Then there's the kid who bought a mid size sedan with a 4 cylinder at a used car lot. He drove it straight to me to price out a CAI. I just stared at him until he started fidgeting. I told him the factory didn't make one then took him outside, popped the hood and showed him the perfectly good duct going straight from the grille to the air box and asked him to explain just how much colder the air from any other sort of intake would be. He hadn't looked under his hood before, he just knew that CAI= more power.

Or the V8 owners who actually have half a brain and ask if the CAI install includes a tune. Then I have to explan factory warrantees and emissions & mileage requirements and that they're not going to get a dealership to play that game for them. But if they want us to bolt on a shiny $700 tube to the air box, we will.

Good modifications and modifiers exist, but typical ones are idiots.
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Let's be clear again - those are Hondas done right. We're talking about the kids who would put a spoiler and a body kit (extra weight) and a fartcan on the car and expect their DX to be something other than the economy car that it is.
I understand, that most Honda kids are not the smartest. The same can be said for most Muscle Car adults.

My point is you can build a Honda to make good power without hurting FE, and not break the Bank.

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