I need a new car!

[Isaac Zachary]

Originally Posted by Taylor95

99% of those miles will be highway miles

An EV really does make sense - what I need might be out of the budget though. It needs to go like 140 miles on a single charge in all seasons. Plus insurance is more on an EV. I'll be living somewhere with solar panels though, so it is pretty tempting.

I do like the idea of a Prius. One just popped up for just over 4k. It's a 2013 in decent shape. 50 mpg is pretty good, and I might be able to get more with various aero mods.

I also spent a lot of time thinking about getting a TDI instead. The major downside of that is that gas is $0.50 cheaper per gallon here. I'm really just looking for something cheap and reliable.

My Nissan Leaf lost more than 50% of range in the winter, and that was one with a heat pump heater, on clean roads, and I was trying my hardest to squeeze as many miles as possible out of it (heater pretty much off most of the time except when I needed to defrost the windshield, very easy on the accelerator, not going at full highway speeds).

Now the Leaf isn't the greatest EV of all time. But I figure anyone wanting an EV where it's cold should get at least double the range they'd need as it will easily be cut in half in the winter.

[Ecky]

EVs make a lot of sense for a lot of people, but long-distance highway travel in extreme weather conditions is probably the least advantageous use-case for them. North America has some of the harshest weather in the world, and some of the longest average travel distances in the world.

[redpoint5]

From reading forums, the Bolt in very cold climates loses about 1/3rd range, giving it a worst case range of about 166 miles.