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Old 02-08-2021, 05:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I, for one, welcome our new Starlink overlords!

Apparently this video is a week old, but I just received the notification. I don't know who this member of the Linus staff is, but he was impressed.

Apparently since Starlink is 6.5 times as close as normal satellites they are a couple of times faster or something.
There is supposed to be a full review on the main channel, but I haven't seen it yet.

It is supposed to start at $99 monthly. I don't know how that compares with our Internet, but I have clients outside of city limits with a poor connection. Sometimes we need to do audio over the phone and when I visited them in-person, sometimes I couldn't look up stuff on my phone, so maybe this would be useful for people that I know.

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These LEO sats should put most of the legacy sats out of business. What I find cool is their ion engines.
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Aparently[sic] since Starlink is 6.5 times as close as normal satellites they are a couple of times faster or something.
Latency.

It's important to video gamers and stock market traders. Apparently not so much to people who thumbnail themselves with their mouth open.

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If you're trying to shave time trading stocks, then you need to be really close to the superlinks in Chicago or NY. The uplink to satellite back to downlink time will be huge like maybe 20 milliseconds, enough time for wall street to do a dozen trades. However for remote places with no power poles strung all over, say Australian outback, this will be a game changer.
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Afghanistan didn't have a wired infrastructure while I was there.
The bad guys kept blowing it up.

They relied on cell phones, which the bad guys definitely used, but the cell phone companies needed to allow the bad guys to listen in, or they would blow up the towers!
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If you're trying to shave time trading stocks, then you need to be really close to the superlinks in Chicago or NY. The uplink to satellite back to downlink time will be huge like maybe 20 milliseconds, enough time for wall street to do a dozen trades. However for remote places with no power poles strung all over, say Australian outback, this will be a game changer.
Latency kind of either matters or it doesn't. Non-algorithmic execution is completely latency insensitive (since milliseconds are imperceptible to humans), while algorithmic execution is extremely latency sensitive.

Considering how poor my experience has been with Spectrum, Xfinity/comcast, and AT&T, a true 50mbps would actually be pretty good. Cable internet isn't that far off from 99/month when you go past the lowest speed package.
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Cable internet isn't that far off from 99/month when you go past the lowest speed package.
Or bundle in a land line.

Libertarians in space. Wooden it be nice if with Starlink as ISP, VPNs and proxies become redundant?
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Latency kind of either matters or it doesn't. Non-algorithmic execution is completely latency insensitive (since milliseconds are imperceptible to humans), while algorithmic execution is extremely latency sensitive.

Considering how poor my experience has been with Spectrum, Xfinity/comcast, and AT&T, a true 50mbps would actually be pretty good. Cable internet isn't that far off from 99/month when you go past the lowest speed package.
Gaming performance is related to latency, and legacy sat internet had a very perceptible lag; something like half a second roundtrip.

Comcast is offering 25 mbps for $20/mo, and 100 mbps for $35. When the promo year is up, switch to CenturyLink for a year for similar pricing. Else, simply ask to pay less and they will split the difference.

I asked to have my parents internet bill reduced and they apologized, informing that their service package was no longer offered. Instead they would have to settle for half the cost and 4x the speed.
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Gaming performance is related to latency, and legacy sat internet had a very perceptible lag; something like half a second roundtrip.

Comcast is offering 25 mbps for $20/mo, and 100 mbps for $35. When the promo year is up, switch to CenturyLink for a year for similar pricing. Else, simply ask to pay less and they will split the difference.

I asked to have my parents internet bill reduced and they apologized, informing that their service package was no longer offered. Instead they would have to settle for half the cost and 4x the speed.
Sorry I was referring to trading. You have to have colocated server racks if you want any chance at automated trading on the usual exchanges. Gaming yes, a few ms matters.

Advertised speed and actual speed come out to be pretty different in my experience. 25mbps Comcast seemed to work better than 25mbps AT&T but I don't think I ever actually got 25mbps. TBH, I still can't imagine streaming 4 4k videos at once like Linus Tech Tips did, because my expectations for internet speed are so poor.

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