I want to get to the bottom of this ethanol killing my mpg - Page 8 - Fuel Economy, Hypermiling, EcoModding News and Forum

Nerys · 10-03-2009, 06:05 PM

No its theft. No one said tax payer dollars can not goto citizens. seriously have you even thought about this man? Come on man stop trying to think too far into it. SEE it for what it is.

its apples and oranges. PAYING A CITIZEN to do a LAWFUL JOB that the CONSTITUTION SAYS IS MY DUTY TO DO AS GOVERNMENT

IS NOT ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THE SAME THING AS TAKING MONEY FROM CITIZENS TO GIVE TO OTHER CITIZENS JUST BECAUSE.

If you can not see the difference here I have zero interest in continuing this line of conversation its just going to result in an argument.

wdb · 10-03-2009, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcb

Dude? The land of rolling blackouts says "bring on all the EV"s?
Reality check.

The only rolling blackouts of which I'm aware were man made, by Enron.

Back on topic, the fact is that E-anything makes less BTU's than non-E gasoline. Assuming the cost is the same, E-anything loses out there in consumer-land. And where I live there is nothing, nada, zilch, zip, reduction in price for E-whatever. And yet the gas companies get subsidies for using it, and the farmers get subsidies for growing it. I'm going to continue to despise E-whatever, thankyouverymuch.

Frank Lee · 10-03-2009, 11:38 PM

It wins for me. I should calculate how much money I've saved.

Nerys · 10-03-2009, 11:59 PM

well here you would save NOTHING since not only do you get less mpg but E85 COSTS MORE than E10 !! (2.01 for E10 2.19 for E85) GO Figure.

Frank Lee · 10-04-2009, 12:02 AM

For sure, if it costs MORE I wouldn't buy it. 40+ cents less per gallon though, darn right!

Nerys · 10-04-2009, 12:11 AM

How cute frank. You think you have a choice.

well YOU do "for now" :-)

I don't they are FORCING me to buy E10 and I do NOT want it.

Frank Lee · 10-04-2009, 12:17 AM

I have many choices!

So you think I'm cute???

Nerys · 10-04-2009, 12:38 AM

Good for you. I truly am happy for you that you have many choices. I have none. its E10 or nothing. I can not take public transport with my 54mile commute I can not bike for my 54mile commute (one way) I can only drive and I can only use E10 since I can not afford a nice small diesel that I can FIT in. I AM getting a metro in very nice shape (finally found one I can afford) It does not FIX my problem. I am still STUCK buying E10 with no choice. this just lets me buy a little less.

As for you being cute? if that picture is you... no ... your not cute :-) hehe

gone-ot · 10-04-2009, 04:11 PM

..here's a true, all-electric car:

...not made in USA, and not cheap.

Frank Lee · 10-04-2009, 04:23 PM

That's a true car? Looks like a concept sketch.