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Old 01-12-2021, 11:34 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Did your Miata do that too (wiper slop)? Mine had a lot of bushing play when I got it.


I think one of them simply disintegrated. I "cast" a new one with epoxy.

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Old 01-12-2021, 11:53 AM   #72 (permalink)
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Nope. This is my first vehicle to do it. I've had them disintegrate and stop working, but not wear a lot and still operate in a less than optimal way.
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Old 01-18-2021, 04:58 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Oops, something's different!

Soooooo...I "ordered" some spare Insight parts off another forum member, and at the last moment asked if he could throw in the BCM. Wasn't thinking it would fix anything, but the FSM kept saying that if the sensors were behaving properly, replace the BCM.

D'oh!

Best $20 I ever spent? (Wasn't about to throw gawd knows how much on one from anywhere else just to test it)

So, of course, I had to go take it for a drive to let the battery meter fill up, so the IMA would start assisting, and see what it was like. Night and day! Always a gear higher than I would have been before, takes off real quick, and never struggles...

The 70mpg is pretty sad. Terrible conditions...sooo many stops, sooo much traffic compared to my usual commute time (same drive...went and gassed her up)...but its a good 10mpgs better than it would have been under my usual, more favorable conditions. Looking forward to seeing what she can do more long-term!

Welp...that decided what way I'm going forward with this. Time to ponder the newly opened up options ahead, and get used to how she drives now! (it's a lot different, believe me!)

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Old 01-18-2021, 05:04 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Nice!! It's night and day, for sure.


From driving my modded Firefly, I was used to the too-tall gearing and lack of assist, so I didn't really miss it in the Insight. I rarely enabled assist, but often used regen.
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Old 01-18-2021, 05:25 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Congrats! It's great you got it fixed, and that it turned out to be so cheap and simple.
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If you get a chance down the road, can you post the part number on the back of the BCM? There are different versions so it may be curious to see which one you've got now versus the one that was giving you trouble.
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Don't have them handy...my original one had "Updated" some month "''01" written on it. I assume it was the original, or one from the same age. The one I put in was from a CVT version, so that would make it at least '03 IIRC.

If I can see the P/N without pulling it out, I'll snap a photo of it next time I'm in there.

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