Interesting Aerodynamic Cars (Mike Vetter's ETV, also Avion)

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Gather 'round chillun's and hear the tale of Sam Barris...

https://kustomrama.com/wiki/Barris_Kustoms


https://kustomrama.com/wiki/Sam_Barris%27_1949_Mercury


https://kustomrama.com/wiki/Sam_Barris


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George...to_customizer)


So Sam did the lead sled Mercs (including the Hirohita Mercury) and George did the Munsters coach. Also:


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Hirohita Merc, El Capitola and The Aztec.

My late brother Ross and I took a 20-week,aircraft,marine,and automotive upholstery course after high school,which included a field trip to Barris' North Hollywood studio.They had some really wild stuff! A fond memory.

[samwichse]

Another one of those 1980's NASCAR specials...

...changed the way the 2+2 sliced through the air, lowering the car’s coefficient of drag from 0.453 on a conventional Pontiac Grand Prix to 0.368 on the Grand Prix 2+2

https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2014/0...grand-prix-22/

[freebeard]

Ford F3L/P68 whatever that is
Just A Car Guy: Ford F3L/P68 whatever that is

It certainly doesn't follow Ford's corporate look.

edit: I fixed it then I noticed you duplicated it.

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by freebeard

It certainly doesn't follow Ford's corporate look.

Something happened to your link, try this.

Just A Car Guy: Ford F3L/P68 whatever that is


A link from that link with the back story.

https://primotipo.com/2018/06/21/skin-deep-beauty/

[freebeard]

Also from primotipo via Justacarguy:
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_Aren't hyperlinks wonderful?

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by freebeard

_Aren't hyperlinks wonderful?

Yes they are wonderful, but I have noticed some car forums like the VehiCROSS dot info forum dying out in favor of Facebook and now Flight Global's "AirSpace" archive going away.

AirSpace Annoucement
https://www.flightglobal.com/about-u...-announcement/

The digital landscape has changed considerably since we launched the site in 2007, with the growth of social media tools such as Facebook and Twitter replacing forums as a way to communicate with like-minded people.

Right click images while you can, they will not be there forever.

Nothing is more temporary than the Internet in my opinion.

Back to interesting cars, or at least unusual views of boring cars.

https://global.toyota/en/




https://www.edmunds.com/fuel-economy...odynamics.html

While aerodynamics has long been put to work in automotive design to improve performance, the art and science of making motor vehicles "slippery" is now focused on miles per gallon, not miles per hour.

Like an airplane, the underside of an automobile is as important to its passage through the air as the top and sides. Chapman continues, "The car has lots of ground effect, and there are lots of improvements that can be done on the underside for tremendous aerodynamic gains. The problem in the past has been that customers have not been willing to pay for things like panels that fill gaps on the underside that they can't see."

[freebeard]

Nothing is more temporary than the Internet in my opinion.

Witness the way Photobucket shot their user-base in the foot.

Those sites like AirSpace and VehiCROSS remind me of all the software companies that had to die in the 1980s and 90s because the stood in the way of Microsoft's ambitions.

Have patience:
https://news.yahoo.com/facebook-amazon-google-2020-problem

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Have patience:
https://news.yahoo.com/facebook-amazon-google-2020-problem

I heard about this via an apology by one of the cigar lounge members that had been laughing at me for my suggestion that autonomous cars could be programed to take routes that favored certain financial interests (ie. chain restaurants etc...).

One of my examples was of Trivago or maybe it was one of the other hotel booking sites charging non-Canadians more for bookings.

Other examples of redirecting Internet traffic abound, I just saw an opportunity to do the same things with automobile traffic and was laughed at by two IT people in the business.

My feelings were a little bruised but I didn't hold a grudge, I asked the fellows to put their Sci-Fi hats on, and they just could not - their failure, not mine.

Like I said the apology from one of the people there, a psychologist came with a brief description of the Warren proposal.

No room at the inn: Small B.C. lodge claims Expedia listed 'rooms unavailable' for 2 years
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...ears-1.4648991

The Strandlunds believe they're the latest victims of an online issue that landed Expedia in trouble in France and is the subject of a potential class action lawsuit in the U.S. — the travel site allegedly posting hotels that aren't its clients, listing them as "unavailable," then re-directing customers to member properties that pay Expedia a booking fee.

Warren took on the credit cards companies for the consumer, I like her moxy.

Her proposal for "stakeholders" verses "shareholders" based on the German model I like too and want to hear more.

Elizabeth Warren has a plan to save capitalism

But enough about economics or politics, and back to cool looking cars.


March 2015
AeroMobil
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...-air-2017.html


I think that the propeller collapses and is covered by those air-brake looking baffles in the now open position.

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by Vox

Warren’s plan starts from the premise that corporations that claim the legal rights of personhood should be legally required to accept the moral obligations of personhood.

That's a good starting premise, and in accord with Jordan Peterson.

Before we get back ontopic, I notice that the night after Tucker Carlson refused to bend the knee to the mob, he had a guest on representing the Social Democrats of America. He agreed with every point she made, and she anointed him an SDA member at the end. Strange times, indeed.

I've lost interest in those transformer type aerobiles since I saw the Delorean Aerospace entry: https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/14/...ce-flying-car/



Although it exhibits a distinct lack of road wheels

[kach22i]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Although it exhibits a distinct lack of road wheels

I think the word "car" in Aircar is like the word "bus" in Airbus, it's just meant to denote private verses public transportation, in a VTOL craft this time.

I'm not a fan of it, I think such a craft needs 3 to 4 points of lift not two, and gimbal fans are always a good idea.

If you regard a helicopter main rotor as a single gimbal that would be a mistake, the control of it is much more complex, and hovercraft are a different animal.

https://www.popsci.com/military-avia...ercraft#page-4

In 1959, William Bertelsen became the unlikely star of a national science magazine.

So the above is not "aerodynamic?

It uses air to reduce friction and therefore is more fuel efficient than a boat going though water 100 times denser than air. If aerodynamics is all about making a craft more fuel efficient and or faster with the less HP, then this is the ultimate machine. Airboats cannot touch a hovercraft in the efficiency category although modern slippery plastics can narrow things up a bit under the right conditions.

Air is a good lubricant, just saying.

Oh, and don't go trying to replicate that illustration above, a hovercraft would just slide down the crown in the road and aim you into the curb, or a tree or a parked car.