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Old 04-06-2009, 01:27 PM   #21 (permalink)
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the 95 Camaro had .33 and the "dirty old model" was not so high as .45. It had a thin strip that was not very aero friendly but it was only a foot tall by length wide and even that was slanted backwards to reduce aero restrictions.

I honestly would not be surprised if the old Camaro's had a lower Cd than .37. The reason they are not FEhas alot more to do with engine dynamics than Cd.

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Old 04-06-2009, 01:35 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Actually after carefully looking over all the previous models I am pretty confident .37 is the worst its ever been for the Camaro. . .
1970 camaro image by Jeffz28 on Photobucket
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http://www.dragtimes.com/images/8136...Camaro-Z28.jpg

Seriously all of those have noses that are at least the same size if not smaller, better boat tails, more aero hoods, most have better aero on the nose and better fender and door panel(less total area look at the area on the side of the 2010. It's enormous for concurrent drag.)
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The 1970s Camaro was one of the first cars to be computer designed. I think the advertising said something about aerodynamics


The 90s Camaro's design really looks like it was driven by aerodynamics. The windshield wipers even have air deflectors
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Old 04-06-2009, 02:10 PM   #24 (permalink)
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the 2010 was not designed by computers. . .they advertised that by letting a non-engineer review it/talk about it.

Who cares what a monkey thinks about a car?
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Old 04-10-2009, 01:29 PM   #25 (permalink)
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the 2010 was not designed by computers. . .they advertised that by letting a non-engineer review it/talk about it.

Who cares what a monkey thinks about a car?
Or a parrot like this one.
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Old 04-10-2009, 03:31 PM   #26 (permalink)
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journalists that say bad things about cars won't be called back to write another article for that car company. Why the heck else would 99% of american cars in a failing market be reviewed as the best thing since sliced bread every time?

IF that car had some excellent downforce characteristics, then it isn't bad. (I kinda laughed writing that, though).
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That goes with other countries as well. The UK especially worships anything German, with frequent mentions of VWs being reliable that make me laugh and stretch the praise for their domestics also (whatever qualifies as truly domestic anymore). From most journalists, impressions on interior quality seem to be skewed by perceived badge status. If a car IS a total POS, you'll only ever see them mention it in a used car feature when the car is out of production or, occasionally if the car's reputation was truly horrific, in a review of the replacement model with reassurances of exterminated gremlins and the execution of the engineerings and their families that built the last model (when it's just as likely the fault of accountants specifying cheaper parts and executives cutting costs by cutting QA).

Ferrari is notorious for tolerating very little criticism of their cars from journalists under threat of being black listed. Good thing the magic horse tends to obscure their vision anyway.
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The UK especially worships anything German, with frequent mentions of VWs being reliable...
To a Brit used to their domestic junk, with Lucas "electrics", darn near anything else would be considered "reliable"!!!
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I suppose that's true, but is the Prince of Darkness still around? Makes me shudder to think just how bad the cars they do mention as unreliable must be. The UK magazines (not to keep dumping on them as I think they're generally the best) like to dump on the American cars, but I've found them to be much more reliable (and a hell of a lot cheaper) than European cars. Of course, a lot of them don't drive so nice or seem all that high quality, but I guess that's why I buy Japanese.
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IF that car had some excellent downforce characteristics, then it isn't bad. (I kinda laughed writing that, though).
I kinda thought of the Nissan GT-R - with a claimed Cd of 0.27.

But with a drag coefficient like that, it must be dangerously loose at high speeds, eh?.

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