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Old 08-05-2013, 11:36 PM   #21 (permalink)
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then downforce is conceptually a straight down lift isn't it?

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Old 08-05-2013, 11:47 PM   #23 (permalink)
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People get confused by such things don't they.

Sorry! I could have been more concise the first time through. Oh well.
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Old 08-06-2013, 09:32 AM   #25 (permalink)
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From what I've been reading it seems like people are assuming that the aileron is far enough from the body that it is in free flow air.

To clarify, my explanation was based on an aileron in close proximity to the body, picking up slow moving boundary air and accelerating it though a slot. Faster moving air equals lower pressure, the air above falls to meet it.

We need to clarify if we are taking about wings in free air or things called an aileron, as there seems to be some talking over each other here.
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Old 08-06-2013, 10:08 AM   #26 (permalink)
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''We need to clarify if we are taking about wings in free air or things called an aileron, as there seems to be some talking over each other here.''

I get confused again
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I get confused again
An aileron would be on a wing and effecting the leading or trailing edge, same for wing or top of car body. It would be flush, near flush (up or down) or set back and or forward slightly.

A wing would be a foil in a free stream of air.

Google images for both and see if it makes sense to you.

People who have assumed equal pressure air approaching the item in question have made a faulty assumption in my opinion.
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:41 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Sorry Kach, i still dont get it, at all...
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Sorry Kach, i still dont get it, at all...
Be the wind.

Think like the wind.

And Google search some of the terms being used here.
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Old 08-06-2013, 05:02 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Oh, I thought you were giving an opinion.

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