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Old 09-13-2008, 09:57 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I think the Michelin X-Radial are great for their prices. You can never go wrong with Costco and their warranty. Plus there were deals where it's $60-80 off on 4 tires at Costco.

Oh, and I bought a set of 13" tires for my VX, and it was $218 installed.

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Old 04-05-2010, 12:24 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Nokian H low rolling resistance tires

I'm going to be buying some Nokian H tires:

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They are less expensive than the Michelin Energy Savers and if they are anything like the Nokian snow tires (that were on the 118mpg economy run winning Honda), then they should be great.

They are 24.4" diameter (851 revs per mile) and they weigh 17 pounds, which is as light as any tires for my xA (185/60/15), and slightly larger diameter than the other tires.

Full disclosure: I'm buying them from Chang Ho Kim, who was the driver of that winning Honda CRX.
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Impressive "shoes". What's the max rated PSI?

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Are hydroedges LRR?
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You know, that is just about the only question I didn't ask. I tried to look around on the Internet, but I could not find it. The Hakka 5 and Hakka R (both full winter tires) are 51PSI.

The Michelin Hydroedge are apparently not nearly as good as the Energy Savers, or the Bridgestones.
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I have a Sears only version of the Fuel Max tread called the "weather handler"

I originally thought they were the Assurance Fuel Max when I put them on, but I've been really happy with them.

They're broken in now and I've managed 37 mpg averages with just easy driving (no hypermiling) on medium distance trips (25 miles) Before my max was around 34.5 without hypermiling tricks.
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You know, that is just about the only question I didn't ask. I tried to look around on the Internet, but I could not find it. The Hakka 5 and Hakka R (both full winter tires) are 51PSI.

The Michelin Hydroedge are apparently not nearly as good as the Energy Savers, or the Bridgestones.
That's ok, you'll be able to tell us soon enough. The brochure PDF didn't have PSI info :

http://www.nokiantyres.com/files/nok...2_2010_LR1.pdf

I toodled around the Nokian website and I found this humongous picture of the Nokian H :

http://media.digtator.fi/digtator//p...&org=38&view=0

I was able to determine some info, but the slant-view is pretty severe, so I couldn't see it.

Where's the CIA image-extraction software when I need it most?!?!?

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OOOOOOH! Nokian H!

Yummy.

Those are the babies that recently won a big Euro tire test. Not as LRR as the energy savers but won on most other points. Wet traction, aquaplaning resistance, dry traction etc. etc. All that and non toxic oils.

I'm also looking at getting those as my summer tires. I have the WRg2 (51psi max sidewall) and they are great.

Nokian also just came out with a new LRR all season called the eNTYRE. Only in 15+ inches so far though.
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I just switched from my Hakka R 175/70/13 winter tires at 55psi to my Bridgestone Potenza RE92 165-65-14 at 60psi and my mileage jumped 7-8 mpg. It felt like changing from somewhat heavy street shoes to a pair of light slippers with a lighter steering feel, increased FAS rolling distances, and reduced power levels needed to maintain speed. The Hakkas were new when I put them on this fall, the Potenzas were first installed in July and had about 5000 miles on them when they were removed this fall.
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There seems to be much more press activity in Europe regarding LRR tires.

http://www.tiremedia.com/

from:tiremedia.com - TUV Sud Shows Michelin Energy Saver as Lowest Cost

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Independent testing organisation TUV Sud has shown that Michelin’s Energy Saver tyres lend motorists considerable savings over competitors’ brands...

The Energy Saver proved to have a considerable advantage over rivals in a direct comparison in terms of longevity and fuel consumption; on average, the tyre cost Ł8.12 less per 1,000 miles in the 205/55R16V size category, and Ł5.58 less in the 195/65R15H section.

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