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Old 11-26-2020, 05:54 PM   #41 (permalink)
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The inherent genius of the tipi [teepee] is that it is a cone tilted toward the prevailing downwind direction. Augmented with sophisticated smoke flaps to control airflow through the interior.

Circular floorplans dominate low-energy building systems. Tipi dwellers describe the newbies houses as "a mountain with several caves in it".

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Old 11-27-2020, 05:21 PM   #42 (permalink)
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That is a PhD-level description of an elementary structure.

I feel the risk of kicking the ceiling is low, but I could staple a comforter to it or something. Right now my immediate concern is back problems.

Between having a thin mattress on the floor and putting a sports chair in front of my computer today, I appear to have thrown out my back. I would expect this to be less of a problem on my loft bed because the mattress is supported by 2x4s and plywood, which give under my weight.

The carpenter ripped the 2x4s half as thick on the edges, where they join the rest of the frame.

He also did that on the ladder ends, which may be why the legs curve. 1x4s seem wholly inadequate for supporting a loft bed.

Imagine, if you will, I wake up on my loft bed with back problems. I try to climb down and fall onto the bookcase and metal filing cabinet in the corner, as well as everything on top of them.

[concerned emojo]

I used the sports chair so that I could use my computer [more] properly. There wasn't room for my bed and the chair, so I flipped my bed out of the way.

My bed [at least on the floor] is too hard. I borrowed my brother's bed, but it was too soft. Also, he has such an array of sheets, blankets, and comforters of various sizes, that I gave up, because I did not feel like making someone else's bed while my back is giving me attitude.

However, I wondered.

What if I made a Murphy bed with a desk that flips down?

The issue is that I would need to have my television flip down from the loft, which I would use for storage, and imagine how fun it wouldn't be if I woke up to my television falling on me and breaking.

The first two results are DIY kits using boat seat swivels. One guy calls them $20 hardware. The other says they are $7 each from Home Depot, but not in my store!

They get fancy with extra shelves and stuff, but would you believe that I don't think I have room for anything below my twin XL loft bed besides my twin XL mattress?

They also have their bed go the normal way, not sideways like the friend of Bob, He Who Likes to Make Stuff.

Does anyone want my bed to fold vertically? I would only need to frame the bottom and just have the mattress fold in half!

Watch me bump my head zero times where the mattress is!

Yes, also watch me use my desktop computer with half a mattress flopping on my head!

I don't know if I have shared videos by this guy, but I have watched a few:

This is similar. Or not. Who wants to compare and contrast?

He refers to the standard $300 kit with its own bearings, hydraulics, and other hardware. He mentioned that putting away his queen bed required more effort, but I am not worried about flipping my twin XL bed sideways.

The first two videos are great. They show me how to make this:

Is that really a desk, though? On "Last Man Standing" the dad says that a desk without shelves or drawers is just a table, so let's acknowledge that this will be a table, but I will do officework on it, with shelves and drawers elsewhere.

Well, forgive the TMI, but I am going to read a book in the bathtub. My back is killing me!
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That is a PhD-level description of an elementary structure.
A terse description. PhD would be verbose, like they're paid by the word. Tipi are sophisticated; 'Simplify and add lightness'.

What is the sports chair? I have a en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kneeling_chair. It'd my go-to when I have back problems. It's hard on my shins otherwise.
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Ah! Academia! Sometimes my employer requires me to use excessive quantities of words!

Also called a camp chair:


As I recall, the platform that I built for my second platform bed was a 4' piece of plywood with boards screwed on each side, so I have 32" of 1x4s to support my head and shoulders, and then Downy-soft plywood for the rest of me.

That was okay, resting on a metal bed frame, but a plywood floor, nailed to 2x4s, with padding, and carpet, is hard and unyielding?

Hopefully 2" of foam glued to the platform will make it more tolerable.

I need to see how that platform fits under my loft bed and with my mattress.

Screw a box to the top of the platform, attach boat seat swivel to the corners, and screw the other side to plywood cut to fit inside the side and attached with pocket screws.

The folding desk is the hard part, right?
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The inherent genius of the tipi [teepee] is that it is a cone tilted toward the prevailing downwind direction. Augmented with sophisticated smoke flaps to control airflow through the interior.
Fewer need for air conditioning and resistence to high-speed wind flows? Sounds tempting to employ some of its features in a house.
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There was a bunch on old highway 66 outside of San Berdoo used as a motel. Not sure how well they were air conditioned
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Were they actual tipis? I watched a documentary involving hotel rooms shaped like traffic cones.

I am pretty sure they wouldn't use real traffic cones.
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Teepee lookalikes not real tipi. This is the best illustration I can find [easily]:


https://infantilangelganivet.blogspo...-en-tipis.html

There is a ground cloth that wraps up inside the poles to 4-5ft. There is a path for air under the edge of the weather cover and no drafts in the interior.
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Were they actual tipis?
Not sure if regulations would allow the usage of actual tipis as hotel rooms
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Only if the tipis predated the regulations. Most things get grandfathered, but I don't know if any would last that long, and you often need to meet new standards when you remodel.

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