Looking for help building a Gas Vapor system

[RustyLugNut]

Originally Posted by racprops

So tell me about what you HAVE done, either give real help and advice or stop kicking me and leave me alone.

IF your unwilling to share in a open format here I can give you a PM with my contact info.

We can then talk off line.

Rich

You are asking for free technical help in an open forum for a device that you hope to make money on. YOU have "secrets" you cannot/will not divulge, and yet the help you seek is to be free and open.

I hope you continue to build and document in an open format so that we may all learn from both your failures as well as your successes as failure is still good data. If you hope to patent and protect your ideas in the future, you really need to stop the discussion now and create in a cocoon.

[oil pan 4]

If you have some amazing but totally secret fuel saving technology the oil company men will make sure you take those secrets to your grave.
Would you like to die from a heart attack, a vehicle "accident" or apparent suicide.

[racprops]

10 years ago I agree with you, even 5 years ago BUT now with the gasoline engine dieing I am not so sure, and IF I get it working I will public domain it ALL OVER THE PLACE, and see installs for those that want it.

[oil pan 4]

I don't know if the gasoline engine is dieing.
About 95% of vehicle sales are gasoline powered.
About 3% of the remaining 5% are diesel sales, then the remaining 1 or 2% are battery or large pack plug in hybrids, that can still burn gasoline.
The Department of Energy believes liquid fuel vehicles will still make up 80% of all new vehicle sales even as late as 2030.

[tomi_k]

Regarding vaporizing the gasoline, is this the same topic as what Tom Ogle did long time ago (US 4,177,779)?

Has anyone looked into US 2,407,478 - Antiknock or detonation dampening device?

[tomi_k]

From "Fuel Economy of the Gasoline Engine - 1977" by D.R.Blackmore and A. Thomas

[racprops]

Originally Posted by tomi_k

Regarding vaporizing the gasoline, is this the same topic as what Tom Ogle did long time ago (US 4,177,779)?

Has anyone looked into US 2,407,478 - Antiknock or detonation dampening device?

OMG NO!! I read up on his system and he was heating up the whole gas tank and then piping fumes all the way to the engine.

Talk about about a rolling bomb.

Rich

[tomi_k]

Ah okay... Well, how he did may not have been "a good idea" but principle seems to be the same.... vaporize gasoline...

[racprops]

Originally Posted by tomi_k

From "Fuel Economy of the Gasoline Engine - 1977" by D.R.Blackmore and A. Thomas

Yes and those were major cheats, flying test runs (up to speed say 20 MPH then run test) engines rigged for one set RPM etc. Lots of coasting.

The only cheat they did not do was to roll them down hills.

Totally unusable as normal cars.

Rich

[tomi_k]

Probably not 1:1 applicable to a "normal" and current cars but even with cheats (if true), I would be more than happy to take fraction of those mpgs...