03-02-2013, 11:59 PM
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LRR tires (new CR rankings)
Released yesterday, March 1, 2013:
The best gas-saving car tires
Moderately useful.
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03-04-2013, 11:17 AM
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Interesting... I see they used a Chevy Cruze for testing. I might have to get a subscription and check out the article.
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03-04-2013, 05:46 PM
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Surprised to see Cooper on that list..
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03-13-2013, 03:16 PM
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A summary for the best low rolling resistance tires:
All-season (T speed rated)
Michelin Energy Saver A/S
Cooper GFE
Performance all-season (H speed rated)
Michelin Primacy MXV4
Dunlop SP Sport 7000 A/S
Bridgestone Ecopia EP422
Performance all-season (V speed rated)
Bridgestone Ecopia EP422
Winter
Michelin X-Ice Xi3
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03-13-2013, 07:28 PM
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Europe rates all their tires, is there any good source of this info that could be applied to the same US branded tire?
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03-13-2013, 10:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beatr911
A summary for the best low rolling resistance tires:
All-season (T speed rated)
Michelin Energy Saver A/S
Cooper GFE
Performance all-season (H speed rated)
Michelin Primacy MXV4
Dunlop SP Sport 7000 A/S
Bridgestone Ecopia EP422
Performance all-season (V speed rated)
Bridgestone Ecopia EP422
Winter
Michelin X-Ice Xi3
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Were there any scores that can be compared between tire categories? I know most people looking primarily at LRR tires don't really care which "type" of all season tire they get, they're most interested in the efficiency.
Also, I would be interested in knowing how much of a hit you take when going to the Xi3 from a good LRR A/S tire. The Xi3 is what I was looking into for winter tires next year based on a previously good experience with the Xi2 on my previous car.
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03-13-2013, 10:54 PM
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03-17-2013, 01:20 PM
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I'm glad to see some current information from a fairly independent source.
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03-17-2013, 02:19 PM
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Co worker gave me his copy, unless there's more online that only subscribers can get to I wouldn't waste my money. Kind of surpised that the Mich winter beat Nokina, but they didn't give enough info to know if they even tested them.
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03-17-2013, 02:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roosterk0031
Co worker gave me his copy, unless there's more online that only subscribers can get to I wouldn't waste my money. Kind of surpised that the Mich winter beat Nokina, but they didn't give enough info to know if they even tested them.
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Agreed that there is something odd about the list. I think it might be that they wanted to balance LRR with another value they called "safety" or something. In other words, these ratings are not strictly about LRR, which is why I thought it "moderately" useful when I initially posted the link. I don't mind their concern, but I wish they had made two lists then: one with the straight LRR capacity and other adjusted for their opinion of what is the proper balance of LRR and braking. I'd like to judge for myself.
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See my car's mod & maintenance thread and my electric bicycle's thread for ongoing projects. I will rebuild Black and Green over decades as parts die, until it becomes a different car of roughly the same shape and color. My minimum fuel economy goal is 55 mpg while averaging posted speed limits. I generally top 60 mpg. See also my Honda manual transmission specs thread.
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