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Old 03-15-2017, 09:27 AM   #101 (permalink)
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The problem is not exclusive to California. Many folks are getting fooled to believe in any allegged "environmentalist" policy that does nothing but prevents a sustainable economic development. It's not about pollution, it's all about preventing other people to earn some profit.
That's the primary motivator behind all vehicle law, isolating the market.

That's also why our cars can't pass euro crash standards
And sell poorly internationally

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Old 03-15-2017, 11:37 AM   #102 (permalink)
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Old 03-15-2017, 01:22 PM   #103 (permalink)
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That's the primary motivator behind all vehicle law, isolating the market.
At least in my country, the protectionist laws failed to a point that locally-built cars became too expensive and technically outdated.


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American cars sell poorly in export markets due to the lack of Diesel and other fuel-efficient options. OTOH I don't get the point on why they wouldn't pass Euro crash standards.
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Old 03-15-2017, 02:53 PM   #104 (permalink)
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What does a mostly under ground pipe line hurt?

The useful idiots in Colorado who think almost exactly like sheeple in california blocked a pipe line that was going to be used to transport liquified CO2 from the high CO2 bearing natural gas wells in CO and send it to west Texas and eastern NM to be injected underground as part of carbon capture and sequestration.
That one hurts everyone, because it wastes money on the ultimately futile idea of carbon capture and sequestration, and diverts attention from potential real solutions. Sort of a parallel to the hydrogen cars pushed under the early Bush administration.
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That one hurts everyone, because it wastes money on the ultimately futile idea of carbon capture and sequestration, and diverts attention from potential real solutions. Sort of a parallel to the hydrogen cars pushed under the early Bush administration.
Compressed co2 has many uses, should just sell it to weld shops, science experiments, food industry and BB gun makers, also would work great at sewage treatment plants, could inject it in soil and water at hydroponic farms.

As usual why use something useful, when you can waste it?
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Building the CO2 pipe line does hurt everyone.
The CO2 was going under ground but I left out the part exactly where and really why it was going to be injected into the ground. It was going to be largely injected into oil bearing formations. The idea was to use CO2 to drive oil out of the ground instead of using water in drought stricken west Texas and eastern NM.
CO2 works much better than water for oil recovery. Then when the oil runs out the CO2 stays in the ground.
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American cars sell poorly in export markets due to the lack of Diesel and other fuel-efficient options. OTOH I don't get the point on why they wouldn't pass Euro crash standards.
American car companies were arguing that cars that passed crash tests in the US were superior to Euro cars and there was no reason for them to test for entry to Euro markets.

They had a 3rd party do tests to the Euro standards on cars that passed here and then hushed the results because our cars failed the crash tests.
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German cars are made to go on the autobahn so they should crash test pretty well.

Asian cars, mainly Japanese car's not as much. As of 2009 the highest speed limit in Japan was about 48mph.
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Well, that explains drifting. Actually, Wikipedia says:

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The general limit is 60 km/h (37.3 mph) except for divided national highways where the limit is normally 100 km/h (62.1 mph).[1] Urban areas are usually zoned at 40 km/h (24.9 mph).[2]
There are better ways to sequester CO2.
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I lived in Japan for 3.5 and never saw a 100kph road.
But I left there in 2009.
The speed limit could have been increased or those faster roads been down south. I was way up north in the mountains.

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