11-10-2008, 07:59 PM
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The MPG figures quoted on the Canadian site are most likely Imperial gallons (larger).
I'd like to see tuft testing of the rear of an MX-3, particularly the glass. It certainly looks like the right shape...
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11-10-2008, 08:52 PM
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Tatra T97, from the 30's... Flat bottom too
Tatra T 600 50's
And by the 70's The 613
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11-10-2008, 10:34 PM
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11-11-2008, 08:48 AM
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Those old tatras are pimped. A modern 4-banger dropped into there would make a sweet eco-ride you wouldn't be embarrassed to take someone to dinner in.
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11-11-2008, 09:55 AM
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I didn't know the Celica's engine was a spy.
ba-dump bump.
I wish air would flow around our cars like depicted with such nice, orderly arrows.
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11-11-2008, 03:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MazdaMatt
Those old tatras are pimped. A modern 4-banger dropped into there would make a sweet eco-ride you wouldn't be embarrassed to take someone to dinner in.
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Don't forget the "a", though. Those Tatras look like pretty big cars, from the pictures. FTM, I seem to remember a bunch of old American cars with similar shapes. (Probably late '40s to early '50s, since I remember them sitting in back yards & fields when I was a kid.) Fairly slick fastback shapes*, but big in cross section.
*Especially when "ecomodded" a bit, as for instance here: Google Image Result for http://www.oldschoolpride.com/images/MVC-001S.JPG
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11-11-2008, 04:02 PM
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Quote:
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Don't forget the "a", though. Those Tatras look like pretty big cars, from the pictures. FTM, I seem to remember a bunch of old American cars with similar shapes. (Probably late '40s to early '50s, since I remember them sitting in back yards & fields when I was a kid.) Fairly slick fastback shapes*, but big in cross section.
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I think that point is often missed, it's Cd * frontal area that should be compared. I've seen one once, but can't remember where... a graph that plotted car models with Cd on one axis and frontal area on the other.
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11-11-2008, 04:06 PM
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They aren't that huge... certainly smaller than a Caravan... probably weighs twice as much as a caravan, though. Either way, its old-school aero and it's about as classy as it gets. Very cool car.
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11-11-2008, 07:53 PM
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Anybody remember the Dymaxion???
Not exactly a production car, and only one or two in existence, but still miles ahead of what is currently available:
WNET: Bucky Fuller Dymaxion Car
and more pics here:
Pictures of the Dymaxion Car
Couldn't figure out how to post a pic directly if somebody could do that. It's very slick.
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11-11-2008, 08:36 PM
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My choice would be a Citroen GS 1220 or a DS (four headlight version)
Modern running gear , four seats and a decent luggage capacity when needed.
Pete.
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