Mexico drug cartel insurgents beating Mexican army in gun battel

[All Darc]

Exactly.
People whop blame goverment politic (of not legalize drugs) for the violence and killing of drug dealer and drug cartels, are just as silly like say the goverment should give free cars to make people stop steeling cars.

Many rock celebrities, and hollywood star, are guilty for glamorize drugs and turn stupid teens interested on it.

People today have no character and don't take responsabilities for what they do. They act by convennience. If they want to use they create numeroues excuses, but if they kill someone under inflkuence of drugs, they change mind to avoid jail, and start to teel everyone it was a msitake and that was the drug and not hin who commited the crime.


These cartel's leaders are seeds of evil. They need to be executed. No jail for such cold blood murders who kill even children.

Originally Posted by RedDevil

It is like All Darc says - stop using drugs and the cartels lose their main source of income.
The problem is not just with the provider. It is the clients that keep giving them money.

Somehow some people still think it is cool to use drugs; they look no further than their own pleasure. But they are responsible for the misery widespread drug trafficking causes, with all the corruption and dysfunctional governmental and police agencies in Latrin America as they get overwhelmed by the drug cartels.
Hundreds of millions of people live in misery because of drug trade. How 'cool' is that?

It may be impossible to completely defeat all drug use.
There seem to be some cases where cannabis could help, like in reducing the effects of MS. So maybe legalize and regulate the mildest forms, but educate the people about the havoc illegal drug trade causes.

[Fat Charlie]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Mexico is turning into a failed state.
If Mexico doesn't fix it the US will fix it for them.

Step 1: Stop buying all the drugs the cartels can ship.
Step 2: Watch what happens now that the cartels don't have more revenue than the government.

[Xist]

Are the gringoes still in Mexico for the same reason they originally went? If not, why are they still there?

Sometimes the only way to defeat your enemy is to deny them battle.

[litesong]

Originally Posted by Fat Charlie

Step 1: Stop buying all the drugs the cartels can ship.

That's logical. But, druggies have less logic, than druggies who are dead. At least, when dead, druggies can't get any worse.

[Fat Charlie]

What's illogical is treating the drug cartels as if they are aggressively doing something to us. Overall, if your country demands a product and insists the product remain illegal, the market can only be served by criminals- and the more money that's at stake, the more vicious the criminals will be.

The US has no grounds to complain about drug cartels' behavior because they're simply serving our market. Attacking the supply end has never worked and we seem set on keeping the whole industry illegal, so we might as well try to affect the demand side of things.

[redpoint5]

Hard drugs should remain illegal. People that use them should either be locked up, or sent to some druggie island to fend for themselves, their choice. What we do to facilitate their drug abuse and criminal activity to support it is criminal itself.

Best solution; let each state decide their drug policy. It would have the effect of sending drug abusers to drug islands.

[All Darc]

I had this idea years ago. Get all hard drug users who are quite addicted, put in a isolate place to they start a society of only drug addicteds. Let's see if they will susceed. Someone get overdoses and the ambulance driver will also be a addicted, and the doctors, the emergency room workers, nurces...

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Hard drugs should remain illegal. People that use them should either be locked up, or sent to some druggie island to fend for themselves, their choice. What we do to facilitate their drug abuse and criminal activity to support it is criminal itself.

Best solution; let each state decide their drug policy. It would have the effect of sending drug abusers to drug islands.

[oil pan 4]

A leper colony / purge island would be kind of cool.

[redpoint5]

To be clear, I'm not saying I don't care about drug addicted people, only that the only way to break addiction is either to take away their freedom to harm themselves (locked up), or removed from the ability to leech resources from the community to support their addiction.

My friend recently was burglarized while his entire family was home sleeping, and it cost him a couple days of work and about $9,000. Probably allowed a tweaker to tweak another few days before doing it again to someone else.

[All Darc]

As long as I know, people do not choose to be inffected by leprosy.
As long as I know, leper colony was compulsory.

People choose use heavy drugs.
Many people advocate to use drugs.
And the island idea would be to people who choose to keep using drugs.

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

A leper colony / purge island would be kind of cool.