Mistfit Talon, a little bit bent but not broken

[cbaber]

I said we are not at risk, not that it is impossible. The EPA receives thousands and thousands of complaints each year over a variety of issues. Unless you guys know something I don't, there is no way the EPA would charge pgfpro for tuning and modifying his personal vehicle for his own purposes. Out of the thousands of complaints the EPA receives each year, they only have time for a few cases. And they are the big violators. Fraud on large levels. No risk for a lone EcoModder.

[UltArc]

Zero % risk, to me, means impossible. I am not sharing my personal view about such broad topics on an open forum, but I am not concerned about him- I think he will be okay

But I do think it's a disservice to individuals who do not do detailed research, read that post, and think that there is no risk. There is. It is against the law to tamper with emissions systems. The only solid legal writing I could find was on the details of the catalytic converter, but that is why I stopped searching and came back here- hoping you already had a source.

[pgfpro]

Good news, I have been giving access again this year to a private runway service road for testing. I can use pretty much anytime I need it. So this year I will continue my testing from 40 to 45 mph. The best mpg in the Talon last year was around 55 mph.
EDIT:
Light Load Stock Settings.
2350 rpm
14.7:1 A/F
1.03 BSFC
15.14 BSAC
11.46 lbs./hr fuel
168.4 lbs./hr air
28 mpg @ 53 mph

Light Load Lean Burn Settings "private road test"
2350 rpm
30:1 A/F
0.56 BSFC
16.80 BSAC
6.26 lbs./hr fuel
188 lbs./hr air
53 mpg @ 53 mph

[maxc]

Originally Posted by pgfpro

Good news, I have been giving access again this year to a private runway service road for testing. I can use pretty much anytime I need it. So this year I will continue my testing from 40 to 45 mph. The best mpg in the Talon last year was around 55 mph.

Light Load Stock Settings.
2350 rpm
14.7:1 A/F
1.03 BSFC
15.14 BSAC
11.46 lbs./hr fuel
168.4 lbs./hr air
28 mpg @ 55 mph

Light Load Lean Burn Settings "private road test"
2350 rpm
30:1 A/F
0.56 BSFC
16.80 BSAC
6.26 lbs./hr fuel
188 lbs./hr air
53 mpg @ 55 mph

How much road horsepower does it take for your car to cruise @ 55mph?

[slownugly]

pgfpro im with these guys. im an inspection mechanic in a very strick emissions state. a customers vehicle is subject to individual STATE regulations.

not sure how your state is but in pa 1974 and older are totally exempt and dont require a sticker. 1975-1995 require VISUAL anti tampering inspection (egr,air,pcv, fuel cap, fuel flap, cat) 1996+ require an obd2 check. our states emissions program (like most other states) is total bull.

If someone gets butthurt at you and seriously reports it to the government i doubt anything would happen to you. If something does happen just make sure you have all your factory emissions equipment (i have a complete book of what the cars came with from the factory) and tell them to go s*^t in their hands and clap.

lets put it this way i have a 2000 ford focus with a mustang drivetrain in it and there are ways to pass it legally.

[brucepick]

Heh-heh, but nobody can pass your Taur-ang on the highway!

[pgfpro]

Originally Posted by maxc

How much road horsepower does it take for your car to cruise @ 55mph?

Around 9.5 WHP @ 53mph

I had the wrong mph in my post.

[maxc]

Originally Posted by pgfpro

Around 9.5 WHP @ 53mph

I had the wrong mph in my post.

If I did the math right about 21% thermal efficiency? On lean burn.

[pgfpro]

Originally Posted by maxc

If I did the math right about 21% thermal efficiency? On lean burn.

I come up with a engine number around 23% BTE with my 15 % drive-train loss. Around 11.2 FWHP, with a heating value around 44k LV and a CE of .97

Keep in mind I'm running a auto with AWD.

[Superfuelgero]

Federal emissions started in MY 1966. To be completely clear of issues, I'd go back to then.

In California, the CHP would look for, and cite emissions modifications. Mainly around kid hangouts or tracks.

Good idea in general not to advertise anything in the gray, whatever you choose.