10-21-2008, 07:34 AM
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Morning Commute Observation
This morning i came into the office early ( 6AM). it was early enough i braved the Highway for the drive (I75 into atlanta for about 12 miles). Usually i avoid the highway like the plague ( it is really odd seeing 8 southbound lanes STOPPED during rushhour).
I have done a pretty good job of tracking out the surfece streets to get be to and from work the best.
So this mornings commute - when i checked the Scangage TRIP - Lo and behold my commute MPG was 41 !!! this is way over the typical morning commute of about 32 ish. So i start thinking that i need to leave for work earlier and reap the highway MPG rewards...
But then i look at the total gallons used.. and total gallons of 0.42 compared to the surface street route of 0.35 gallons. ( the highway is actually MORE miles than the surface street)
So maybe the highway is not actually the best way to get to work - although from a pure MPG it is better in one respect - in another respect i can make the same trip with less gallons going a different way.
Has anyone else seen this in thier commute? the "Best MPG" is not actually the best way to take overall?
Steve
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"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line - But it better work this time"
First Milestone passed - 30 MPG (city) 5/15/08
Best City Tank - 8/31/09- 34.3 MPG (EPA= 20)
Best Highway Tank - 5/20/09 - 36.5 MPG (EPA= 28)
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In effort to drive less:
Miles NOT driven in 2009 = 648 (Work from home and Alt Transporatation)
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10-21-2008, 10:40 AM
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with a 54 mile commute, the hy-way is the only way for me
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10-21-2008, 11:11 AM
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I have the same dilemma, for the last part of my drive I can take the by-pass and get to work in less time, or go down the main street for the shortest distance, but takes more time as the city is a firm believer in unsyncronized stop lights... From what I can tell if I get lucky with the lights then the city route uses less gas. But on average I use slightly less gas using the by-pass and it always takes less time.
Although its fun to get high mpg numbers really we should be trying to lower the amount of gas we use.
Ian
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10-21-2008, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Doofus McFancypants
This morning i came into the office early ( 6AM). it was early enough i braved the Highway for the drive (I75 into atlanta for about 12 miles). Usually i avoid the highway like the plague ( it is really odd seeing 8 southbound lanes STOPPED during rushhour).
I have done a pretty good job of tracking out the surfece streets to get be to and from work the best.
So this mornings commute - when i checked the Scangage TRIP - Lo and behold my commute MPG was 41 !!! this is way over the typical morning commute of about 32 ish. So i start thinking that i need to leave for work earlier and reap the highway MPG rewards...
But then i look at the total gallons used.. and total gallons of 0.42 compared to the surface street route of 0.35 gallons. ( the highway is actually MORE miles than the surface street)
So maybe the highway is not actually the best way to get to work - although from a pure MPG it is better in one respect - in another respect i can make the same trip with less gallons going a different way.
Has anyone else seen this in thier commute? the "Best MPG" is not actually the best way to take overall?
Steve
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I have the opposite occurence. It's less mileage to take surface streets capped at 30-45mpg, but given the reduced speed and the fact that I won't feel obliged to do 80mph like on the freeway, the mileage is way better, and hence so is my usage. It just takes me an extra 10-15mins or so.
that said, its a much less stressful commute, especially if i leave myself enough time to take it. Only a few traffic lights and maybe a half dozen 4 way stops (which I prefer as I can roll on through rather than wait for 5+ mins)
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10-21-2008, 11:46 AM
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unsyncronized stop lights... Ian
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meaning they are not timed to your MPH so you cant roll through them all. What is the POINT of this? I have noticed quite a few communities local to me that are setup this way, it is really frustrating.
The other issue I have is at +2mph over the limit and tiny little geo metro brakes the yellow lights on a highway are REALLY short. I think they're set to assume you're doing +10mph over the limit and you can get through them in time. I cannot, and I can barely brake in time.
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10-21-2008, 01:24 PM
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When I go downstate and back, I can get better mpg taking the old side road rather than the freeway. On the freeway, even when I would drive the max speed limit of 70, Id have 90% of people blowing past me so I like the side road better, even if it takes a little longer. As a bonus, I found the side road is 5 miles shorter than the freeway so still less gas is used.
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10-21-2008, 03:22 PM
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meaning they are not timed to your MPH so you cant roll through them all. What is the POINT of this?
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Because stopping cars solves all problems! Congestion, pollution, even crime rate. Just make all cars stop for a while, and your community will be a paradise!
...Or so a lot of city councils/planning boards seem to think...
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10-21-2008, 09:44 PM
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I have an 8-8.5 mile commute one-way. I usually take the expressway because I can keep a constant throttle and hover at 55-60, about 1.75-2 RPM.
They just reopened the bridge that was under construction, so now I can take this route:
It's only a half mile less and takes longer, but I drove it for the first time today, and hit EVERY single red light. This might seem bad, but that means I can stay at 30-35 MAX (1.5-1.75 RPM) and accelerate as slow as I want to and I try to let off the gas as far back as possible. I know it seems like it might cause lower MPG to go slower and take longer, but because I have lower RPMs I think it might be more fuel efficient. I don't know for sure, but I though it was worth posting... I really need to get a SGII or MPGuino.
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10-21-2008, 11:09 PM
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I really need to get a SGII or MPGuino.
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Absolutely indispensable.
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10-21-2008, 11:16 PM
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I have run into the the MPG vs total gas used because of carpooling.
My wife's car economy dropped because she was doing short, cold-engine trips, to a co-workers house to meet to car-pool.
Yet, she was only using a little more that HALF the gas she was before!
MPG is only a measure of success when all else is even. Total gas used is the best measurement for conservation!!!
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