05-10-2022, 07:58 PM
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You might want to actual read the links
Same results during a wildfire
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05-10-2022, 08:23 PM
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You might want to do your own research on what is smoke.
Black carbon is a tiny fraction of what makes up smoke.
Notice how almost all of it isn't black carbon?
I admire your Hubris.
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05-10-2022, 09:01 PM
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My comment about reading the links was targeted at your statement that they didn't use wildfire smoke for the test. It clearly says they tested during a wildfire event.
As to the contents of wildfire smoke - do you believe that passing air though the same merv 13 filter at higher CFM removes different compounds?
CFM is the only difference between your filter using a bathroom exhaust fan, a filter made with a box fan, or putting a merv 13 filter in your HVAC system. The more CFM the faster a filter will clear a room.
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05-11-2022, 09:41 AM
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I already tried it and fans barely move any air through the filter and merv13 is only rated to capture "oily smoke" and barely. A box fan moves almost no air through an actual smoke rated fiter.
The industry standard for merv13 is to capture less than 75% of 1 to 0.3 micron particles per pass. That doesn't describe a smoke capturing filter very well.
Works about like using a cloth mask to stop covid. It can be shown to work in useless tests designed to show a positive result.
Also people aren't supposed to run the air conditoner during poor air quality.
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05-11-2022, 01:09 PM
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I already tried it and fans barely move any air through the filter and merv13 is only rated to capture "oily smoke" and barely. A box fan moves almost no air through an actual smoke rated fiter.
The industry standard for merv13 is to capture less than 75% of 1 to 0.3 micron particles per pass. That doesn't describe a smoke capturing filter very well.
Works about like using a cloth mask to stop covid. It can be shown to work in useless tests designed to show a positive result.
Also people aren't supposed to run the air conditoner during poor air quality.
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"only 75%" I don't know about you but I would certainly like to have 75% less particles in the air around me. A Merv 13 captures 90% of particles 1 - 3 microns. You are letting the best be the enemy of good.
Whether or not you should use HVAC during a wildfire event depends on the unit and whether or not it draws fresh air from outside the house or simply recirculates air inside of the house.
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05-11-2022, 06:53 PM
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Too many air conditioners draw air from outside. Mine doesn't, I installed them my self with the intention of isolating from outside air. Unfortunately too may people don't have a detailed understand of how their air conditioning actually works.
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05-12-2022, 01:53 PM
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outside air
My unit has a manual selector 'valve' for operating with O.S.A. or recirculation.
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05-12-2022, 02:13 PM
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I made mine so they can only run closed loop.
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What really happened.
Literally huberistic climate change.
https://youtu.be/qFLJspCh4WI
It was federal not state that lit it.
Reused a 2019 prescribed burn plan. Problem there is we had decent rain in 2019.
Had a killing freeze in spring of 2020 that killed trees.
Lack of man power available if the fire got out of control.
No logistical plan in place to get water to possible burn areas if it got out of control.
Everything they could have screwed up, they screwed up.
I say it was intentional, they wanted it to get out of control to make the public more afraid of prescribed burns.
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06-24-2022, 03:31 PM
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Is it still anarcho-tyranny if the goobermint is the bad actor?
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Urban Dictionary: anarcho-tyranny
Anarcho-tyranny is a concept, where the state is argued to be more interested in controlling citizens so that they do not oppose the managerial class ( tyranny) rather than controlling real criminals (causing anarchy). Laws are argued to be enforced only selectively, depending on what is perceived to be beneficial for the ruling elite.
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