07-11-2014, 10:55 AM
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I'm not surprised but it's really sad because it's not just ford dropping the manual transmissions. Subaru doesn't have them on the outback or legacy for 2015 (unless you live in canada) which is pretty surprising because a lot of subaru drivers drive manuals. They are just going to get rarer and rarer until they're completely gone.
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07-11-2014, 12:41 PM
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Very very sad for me as well.
Look at high end cars, too, ever more popular with paddle-shifted ZF 8-speeds or DSG/PDKs.
Even Europeans are starting to change their minds. In the words of my aunt, and Austrian native, automatics are for "disabled and old people". But dual-clutch auto boxes are letting Europeans indulge in a bit of laziness without the stigma.
As for myself, it is more than just the fuel economy benefits. It is more than the actual control of having three pedals and a stick to push around. I really just genuinely love to work the pattern, each shift a moment of victory as I try to make it smoother, or quicker, or better timed than the last.
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07-11-2014, 01:58 PM
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I love it when we rent a car to an Aussie and have to explain how an automatic works to them. "No no, just leave it in D if you are going forwards!" I was pleasantly surprised when a friend of mine recently asked me to teach her how to drive manual. "Well, it's a good thing to know, isn't it?" Yes! Yes it is. Sadly that attitude is the minority.
The wholesale car business doesn't help the third pedal out either. Dealerships looking for used inventory for their lots always deduct huge for a car that has a manual. They are seen as something you will get stuck with until that one rare person that actually wants a stick will come along. So in general you just don't buy them as you will be waiting a long time to sell it. It's sad to see them go, but not surprising.
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07-11-2014, 06:40 PM
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Animatronic drivers are next?
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07-11-2014, 08:30 PM
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Make more automatics.
It already prevents my loser-in-law from borrowing my car.
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07-12-2014, 10:26 AM
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I passed on dozens of auto Insights before the right 5MT came along.
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07-12-2014, 12:24 PM
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When I use to work for the commercial truck company we use to add 2 extra features for fleet vehicles. We tapped the oil psi to install an anti grind relay interlock with the starter. This way when we sold a truck to xyz the driver couldnt purposely screw up the starter and think hes getting back at the company or milking the union.
Yes, even if I drive under 45 mph I can shift to sport mode, select 7th ratio and beat the drive mode mpg of my cvt.
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07-13-2014, 09:40 PM
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Another reason I traded my 1999 Ranger for a 2010 four years ago. That, and I could still get a small truck that fits in my garage, gets over 30 mpg, and has crank windows and manual door locks.
It is amazing how many people buy vehicles that don't even fit in their garages.
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07-14-2014, 12:41 PM
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Just don't buy new. I'll show them!
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07-14-2014, 02:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sid
It is amazing how many people buy vehicles that don't even fit in their garages.
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No need to buy a vehicle that fits when the garage is filled to the ceiling with unused exercise equipment and junk.
It sure is nice not having to de-ice a car in the morning, or get into one that is 140 degrees.
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