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Old 10-11-2009, 03:56 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I don't see any underwear or porn so you're OK.
Quite counter-intuitive to my thinking, I would say.

I'd prefer to see porn than, say, that Skechers box. Just sayin'.

As far as the parts, heat the section up with a heat gun or something, then put a flat weight (book with a weight on it) on the part you want. It'll help flatten it out. It may take more than one time, though, to get it flat completely.

Upside, if you flatten it out before cutting, you can get larger sections to work with, which will allow you to trim them up perfectly rather than cutting and hoping.

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Old 10-11-2009, 04:01 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Quite counter-intuitive to my thinking, I would say.

I'd prefer to see porn than, say, that Skechers box. Just sayin'.

As far as the parts, heat the section up with a heat gun or something, then put a flat weight (book with a weight on it) on the part you want. It'll help flatten it out. It may take more than one time, though, to get it flat completely.

Upside, if you flatten it out before cutting, you can get larger sections to work with, which will allow you to trim them up perfectly rather than cutting and hoping.
yeah and I was thinking about heating it up to a good temperature, flattening it with a piece of glass and some weights on top and then maybe sanding it down a little to make it a little smoother.

After that I will probably drill some small as possible holes to fit the zip ties through it unless I can get a good way of putting it on there using the screws that the other grill piece is screwed on with, in that case I will take the grill piece off and screw the new grill block in or something if its stable enough
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If it's not stiff enough to be self-supportive, you can "glue" pieces to it (if it's ABS) by soaking bits of it in acetone for a few mins. They'll turn spongy and gooey, and as the acetone dries, the plastic hardens back up. It only works with ABS, though, that I know of.

Good temp = 200* I think. You don't want to go much higher than that, but you want it pliable enough to lose it's elasticity (memory), so that as it cools, it will "remember" the new shape, without being stressed into form.

A good, thick reference book with about 20# on the back of it should be sufficient to weight it down. Do a few heat/cool cycles to get the stress all the way out of the plastic, and you should be golden.
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If it's not stiff enough to be self-supportive, you can "glue" pieces to it (if it's ABS) by soaking bits of it in acetone for a few mins. They'll turn spongy and gooey, and as the acetone dries, the plastic hardens back up. It only works with ABS, though, that I know of.

Good temp = 200* I think. You don't want to go much higher than that, but you want it pliable enough to lose it's elasticity (memory), so that as it cools, it will "remember" the new shape, without being stressed into form.

A good, thick reference book with about 20# on the back of it should be sufficient to weight it down. Do a few heat/cool cycles to get the stress all the way out of the plastic, and you should be golden.
Yeah I cant wait to go to my girl friends house and get this going (believe it or not she has a drimmel tool and I don't... ) but I will go over there and start to shape it the best I can with that and then I will look at how the grill piece I have in now is bolted in and go from there on design. I think this will turn out really cool and not too un-natural looking.

I DO have a question though... should I just make it a flat piece or should I kind of point it like the bumper and hood are anyways? I will put up pics asap to make it easier to understand what I mean
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Aesthetics are your choice, the difference in aero will be smaller than any test you can afford will register.
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Well I was going off of a picture like this one, if it didnt count then he (the white car) could have made the glass just flat and used that but he made it curve into the bumper, I know that it is a way bigger block but you understand where I am coming from...
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I haven't read every post here, but It looks as if you want to cut up a spare bumper shroud to make a grille block with.
( Did I get that right ? )
Why not just keep that thing as is and use it as a spare in case you ever need it ?

Just use some pieces of junk plastic or coroplast instead.
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I haven't read every post here, but It looks as if you want to cut up a spare bumper shroud to make a grille block with.
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Why not just keep that thing as is and use it as a spare in case you ever need it ?

Just use some pieces of junk plastic or coroplast instead.
It's a lip from another car, not a bumper.

RandomFact - You're looking at filling a much smaller area than the white car was. Much smaller. You have to decide if it's worth the extra work to you to lower your Cd by less than .01.
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