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08-23-2012, 05:06 PM
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but the wind is not always blowing and the whole area is pervaded by fine *soot* . on my walls , in my airhandler filters . on the roofs ..
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If you can still see it, it's the less harmful variety ...
What you should worry about is the airborne soot particles that you can't see with the naked eye.
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08-23-2012, 05:18 PM
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*What you should worry about is the airborne soot particles that you can't see with the naked eye.*
it is the evidence i see.the witness plates . the *stains * on the roofing .. the deposition on my interior walls . the collection on my filtration systems ,
on the air handler i run a prefilter on the air returns ,a late type electrostatic [trane] filter . and then a high filtration particulate filter. ..
one can not see the soot . only the collected evidence on the filters .. it all turns *BLACK* real fast
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08-23-2012, 05:50 PM
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What you should worry about is the airborne soot particles that you can't see with the naked eye.
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Well, that's not ALL you should worry about. Big piles of coal ash cause problems, too:
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The Tennessee Valley Authority was responsible for a coal ash spill outside Knoxville that federal officials say is one of the worst environmental disasters of its kind, according to a U.S. District Court order issued Thursda
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TVA held responsible for massive coal ash spill
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08-23-2012, 06:25 PM
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* Big piles of coal ash*
indeed ,, that waste pond failure you cite is costing me on my power bill.
the Cumberland *Steam Plant* waste pile is going into a meteor crater .. hard by the river. . should that one fail it would play billy hell with my water supply ''
one wonders ,, if they burn 20K tons coal a day , how many tons of waste [ with what constituents] go in that waste pile
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08-23-2012, 09:04 PM
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* Big piles of coal ash*
indeed ,, that waste pond failure you cite is costing me on my power bill.
the Cumberland *Steam Plant* waste pile is going into a meteor crater .. hard by the river. . should that one fail it would play billy hell with my water supply ''
one wonders ,, if they burn 20K tons coal a day , how many tons of waste [ with what constituents] go in that waste pile
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A typical coal fired powerplant releases more radioactive bioproducts into the atmosphere than a nuclear plant creates during the same duration. Oddly thorium, radium, uranium, mercury, lead, bismuth, etc is found in trace amounts throughout coal, nice side effect. But it is massively dilluted of coarse but it is emitting it into the air and obviously into the ash.
The best use of coal ash would be to require it reprocessed into cinder blocks and cement, back in the day we did things like that but when was the last time you saw a "new" cinder block?
Otherwise the crap should go back into the ground where it came from
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08-24-2012, 08:50 AM
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If the best thing you can say about a nuclear power plant, is that it is not as bad as a dirty old coal plant, then that is damning with faint praise...
I would much rather live right next to a wind farm, or a solar PV or solar heat plant, or a tidal or wave power installation, than even a natural gas power plant.
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08-24-2012, 10:58 AM
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If the best thing you can say about a nuclear power plant, is that it is not as bad as a dirty old coal plant, then that is damning with faint praise...
I would much rather live right next to a wind farm, or a solar PV or solar heat plant, or a tidal or wave power installation, than even a natural gas power plant.
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The only problem Neil is paying for the power.
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08-24-2012, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard
If the best thing you can say about a nuclear power plant, is that it is not as bad as a dirty old coal plant, then that is damning with faint praise...
I would much rather live right next to a wind farm, or a solar PV or solar heat plant, or a tidal or wave power installation, than even a natural gas power plant.
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I was just dissing the coal plant.
I would rather see thorium MSR in place of liquid cooled uranium/plutonium reactors.
We have to be realistic because the volume of power we use will not significantly change without EXTREME hardship, war and arm flailing.
Thorium would allows us to transistion our high energy society to one that at least creates less waste.
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08-24-2012, 11:13 AM
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* Big piles of coal ash*
one wonders ,, if they burn 20K tons coal a day , how many tons of waste [ with what constituents] go in that waste pile
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Well, the better kind of coal has 3.5 to 5% ash.
You can be sure that's not the high grade of coal they're burning in power plants.
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08-24-2012, 02:33 PM
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I would much rather live right next to a wind farm, or a solar PV or solar heat plant, or a tidal or wave power installation, than even a natural gas power plant.
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Your choice, but maybe you should talk to some of the people who do live next to wind farms before moving.
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