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Old 08-17-2023, 11:56 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Woah, thank you Vman455. I was just considering trying different forms of testing as I seen your post just now. Other methods could be best in this case. I think I’m seeing the pattern of vortices coming off the c-pillar and the “down-wash” mentioned by aerohead. I plan to keep testing and I’ll check out your site in the meantime.

aerohead, I understand what you’re saying when it comes to the relationship of input cost versus output savings, whether it’s time or money. So far I’ve spent perhaps $5.00, haha. But I have not counted the man hours.

I will post some more detailed images/observations in the original thread for this car (for the sake of continuity). Will update when I do that.
David Crosby referred to 'time' as the 'final currency.' When you're closer to death, one starts to consider the value of their time more than before.
And, 'Good health is wasted on the youth.' ( don't have the attribution for this one ).

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Old 08-17-2023, 04:06 PM   #32 (permalink)
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If you knew me personally, you might have a chuckle. I stress about time more than I really should have to. Always feels like sand slipping through my fingers. Many people around my age (17-22) don’t much care at all about it, so there’s a lot of isolation in how I feel.

Being on the receiving end of that, is stressful. I am privileged with good health, and I want to use it the best I can. I should utilize my youthful ability to build up a structure of happiness in my life, yes!

…..But it tends to fall apart. The social, economical, and political climate where I am has always felt degrading, alienating, and insignificant. Online visual/audio media has been so streamlined to make money off of short-term dopamine rushes that it’s led to a degradation in attention span and focus. Short attention span and information overload has caused all kinds of issues, especially in me. Hell, I don’t even think politicians do anything except speak and look at cameras. You notice how the government came out about UFOs and nobody even cares?

I do feel very privileged to have my health and ability. It feels good to be young. But man, I don’t know if my generation will even have a future. No god, no faith, no hope.


Worst of all, idiots on TikTok have ruined car prices! Buying a clapped ‘92 miata with no floor pan for $8000….Lord have mercy!
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I should utilize my youthful ability to build up a structure of happiness in my life, yes!

…..But it tends to fall apart. The social, economical, and political climate where I am has always felt degrading, alienating, and insignificant.
It's hard to have anything physical last. My parents build a dome house in 1980, but a separate real estate deal (balloon payment) fell through and they had to let it go.

Wear and tear, obsolescence, taxation all take their toll. Maybe you can hold onto real estate, but you can't move it Tools and knowledge seem to be the best bet.

The social milieu is a construct, they want you to buy in but you don't have to. There is always an outsider contingent.

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www.roadandtrack.com: How the Aston Martin DB11 Generates Downforce Without a Wing
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Aston Martin had an interesting problem when developing its new grand tourer, the DB11. The car needed to generate real downforce at speed, but the company didn't want to resort to something so gauche as a big rear wing. Aston's solution is called Aeroblade, and it's one of the most fascinating things about the car.

Air is directed to an opening at the DB11's C-pillar, where it is then channeled into ducts within the bodywork. That air exits out of a tiny opening on the rear decklid, pressing the rear wheels into the surface just like a wing. Any excess air that channels over the roof is dealt with by a deployable spoiler that raises at higher speeds.

Aston Martin isn't the first to channel air through the body–the Ford GT, Acura NSX, McLaren 570S, and Ferrari 488 all use similar concepts–but no one does it more elegantly. If you didn't know what you were looking for, you probably wouldn't even notice the Aeroblade.
This is a Coanda nozzle. My VW Type III Notchbackused internal ducting to feed engine air around three or four corners from the bottom of the back window to the rear center bottom.
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I do feel very privileged to have my health and ability. It feels good to be young. But man, I don’t know if my generation will even have a future. No god, no faith, no hope.


Worst of all, idiots on TikTok have ruined car prices! Buying a clapped ‘92 miata with no floor pan for $8000….Lord have mercy!
I'm not much older than you, but at your age I already had bum knees...

When it comes to used car prices, I remember when used trucks and vans beaten the hell out of were cheap, but now with all that #vanlife trend on Instagram the price of a rust bucket VW Kombi skyrocketted...
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I saw Buckminster Fuller onstage an the U of 0 where he reported "to the younger folks, the knees are the first to go." He was in his 80s. Next is either hips or memory.

The 23-window walk-through with zero rust:
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Classic Steel Body Fully Assembled 23-Window Walk-Thru Bus Body. $30,000.00.
$4k for a bare chassis to build you wooden banana car on.
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my thoughts

TL;DR: Mr. Kaczynski come back

Well, reading all that does bring up several ideas and stressors. Those are interesting ideas, and confirm some of my suspicions about life. I’ve been reading about people like Graeme Obree, Mike Burrows, etc. Big game changers in the world of racing bicycle aero. Both people faced with issues in life, who managed to stay healthy and lively. Obree is still out there while Mike fell to Cancer. They channeled their emotions and ideas into a medium which reinforced a healthy lifestyle. Seems like a great route to me.

https://theradavist.com/britains-fas...-mike-burrows/

Ringo Starr is still alive. He doesn’t even look his age either. I still think he’s gonna be the last one of them standing. Either adrenochrome or peace and love!

As for knowledge and tools, I’m not so sure what I think. I feel like the mechanization of society should be put under a critical lens more often. I used to think I was impressive riding 45km a day on my bicycles, and so did most of the people I know locally. Meanwhile, a lot of Dutch people talk about riding 300+km in a day! Looking online, they seem to have infrastructure that better integrates cycling into the road mix. Meanwhile in the west, we take anything that is human-powered and jam electric motors into it. Then we try and scramble to make it work in a car-based country. For the most part, it’s barely practical. How would we get anywhere without something to do the work for us? When I see automated driving, I lose a lot of hope.

But that’s me generalizing based on my experiences. I rode the bus most of my time in school, and I started riding bicycles in pursuit of having “my way”. I found it perfect for me and rewarding, but the infrastructure is pretty abominable. I have about 23km of post-nuclear single lane highway, with loose gravel on either end. The speed limit is 100 km/h (But God forbid if you’re not going 115!). No matter what I attempted, it just wasn’t practical. I still try every now and then.

And that’s not even taking into account the social aspect of it. You ever try and drive a vehicle that isn’t just a lifted truck or dodge caravan? Small town people have a lot of issues with that! Thoughtcrime!


Oh well. I enjoy this forum for that reason.

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On the subject of rusty cars and the loss of possessions…yeah. I have 5 Civics, a scooter, a CBR125R, a dune buggy, and a bicycle problem. It’s cool to have, but I’m 22. Having all of that is like chaining a cast iron ball of maintenance and responsibility to my leg. I don’t need this many vehicles, it’s pretty stupid actually. Still less than $10,000 spent, so there’s that.
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I don’t like “vanlife”, and I make fun of it often. Purposely choosing to live in the back of a bombed-out Chevy isn’t supposed to be a choice, I’d say. I also don’t understand how it’s “cheap and free” when you’re tied down by the need for gas? 70% of the girls I’ve met have told me how I should fix a van up and live in it. I think that’s cute but wow, speaks levels to me; why the hell would I buy a van if all I’m ever talking about is fuel economy?

Vanlife my arse, how does low-cost living involve a 1/2 ton V8??
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I used to think I was impressive riding 45km a day on my bicycles, and so did most of the people I know locally. Meanwhile, a lot of Dutch people talk about riding 300+km in a day!
There were times when I was a teenager living in Florianópolis that I lurked about that, yet the hilly road would make it quite harder to go to Curitiba in a bicycle for a weekend off...


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Looking online, they seem to have infrastructure that better integrates cycling into the road mix. Meanwhile in the west, we take anything that is human-powered and jam electric motors into it. Then we try and scramble to make it work in a car-based country. For the most part, it’s barely practical. How would we get anywhere without something to do the work for us?
I have seen more bicycles with 2-stroke gasser engines recently, yet it's just a way to circumvent the need for a motorcycle license, which will become required soon and most likely put an end to those makeshifts...


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When I see automated driving, I lose a lot of hope.
My father is a retired air traffic controller, and I lived close to airfields from when I was born until I was 12y.o., and one of my uncles still works as an aircraft mechanic. I even studied aircraft maintenance BTW. I don't believe automated driving to become the one-size-fits-all it's often portrayed by the media. Most likely it will only be effective in a handful of expressways with a very strictly controlled environment, and even for that I'm not holding my breath...


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And that’s not even taking into account the social aspect of it. You ever try and drive a vehicle that isn’t just a lifted truck or dodge caravan? Small town people have a lot of issues with that! Thoughtcrime!
Living in a country where the VW Beetle used to be a best-seller, and many econoboxes are still leading the sales rankings, sometimes I may sound too pessimistic whenever I say motorcycles with side-cars could be taken more seriously


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On the subject of rusty cars and the loss of possessions…yeah. I have 5 Civics, a scooter, a CBR125R, a dune buggy, and a bicycle problem. It’s cool to have, but I’m 22. Having all of that is like chaining a cast iron ball of maintenance and responsibility to my leg.
What scooter? And is the CBR125 a grey import??? How many of your Civics are actually running? BTW when I was a kid I used to see a dune buggy with a fiberglass roof and gullwing doors, which was daily-driven by its owner at that time...


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I don’t need this many vehicles, it’s pretty stupid actually. Still less than $10,000 spent, so there’s that.
For that total cost, I would be tempted to also do so. Yet most likely I would consider a campervan instead of 5 Civics
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Kaczynski may have been right, but he was wong too.

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An electric reverse tricycle?

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