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To move the center of pressure back?
Forgot to post earlier that I was also wondering- if they were on to something- why there were no successors.
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No, just the width of the boundary layer, hence the folds. Messing around with the cp was reasonably well understood.
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02-27-2019, 04:07 AM
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Forgot to post earlier that I was also wondering- if they were on to something- why there were no successors.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BATcars.jpg
By BAT9 they were toned down quite a bit. Maybe they weren't?
Or maybe they didn't go far enough.
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02-27-2019, 07:02 AM
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I don't think those BATs are in chronological order. In any event, they were not making fins for the usual reasons, or they would not have become curled.
The windmobile is another way to use fins for something other than stability, and I think it has considerable potential as a way to reduce average drag in the real world, even if pure wind power is seldom close to adequate. I saw the John Paul Mitchell Systems wind & pedal hybrid get hit by a gust, and the acceleration was startling.
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02-27-2019, 01:57 PM
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The car originated from a joint collaboration project between Alfa Romeo and the Italian design house Bertone that began in 1953. Three cars were built: the BAT 5 in 1953, the BAT 7 in 1954, and finally the BAT 9 in 1955. All three cars were designed by Franco Scaglione.
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There exists a BAT 11.
![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/Alfa_BAT_11.jpg)
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02-27-2019, 11:10 PM
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Those are nacelles for jet exhausts, plugged with tail lights. See the Ford show cars and Galaxie for the originals.
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Indeed. Well, the aeronautic themes were very popular by then, with the jets taking over the commercial aviation... And it does resemble an F-5 with the afterburner lit ![Thumbs up](/forum/images/smilies/grinning-smiley-003.gif)
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I have never seen any vehicle with a bodywork dedicated for pulling a glider. At an aeroclub I went once, a Chevette with its top chopped off was used for this purpose.
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I have never seen any vehicle with a bodywork dedicated for pulling a glider. At an aeroclub I went once, a Chevette with its top chopped off was used for this purpose.
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The Trunnel (mentioned here before) sort of was...
https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...tml#post563375
![](http://cdn.parabolicarc.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/xcor_trunnel_rudder_test.jpg)
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