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Yes, Aerohead mentioned that narrowing the rear track can have as much as a 40% reduction in drag.
I think the Eolab is subtly narrower in the back. They pushed the rear wheels back somewhat so it affected the rear seat width less or not at all.
2014 Renault Eolab Concept Boldride.com - Pictures, Wallpapers
The Eolab is a 4 door including the hatch.
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10-31-2014, 06:52 AM
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Renault currently sells the 100% electric ZOE wich given french incentive start à 18K USD (and a monthly battery rental from 100 USD for 8000 miles per year) for a useful range of 90 miles.
The word inside Renault is that range would double in the next few years.
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The Zoe is called a leaf here. Renault and nissan are one and the same.
if this car is really true and at 23,9 then they should just start making it tomorrow. 50% of new cars would be that.
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01-16-2015, 03:50 AM
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The Zoe is called a leaf here. Renault and nissan are one and the same.
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By the same logic, the Prius C and the Prius would be the same... they are even made by the same company so they should be identical!
Renault and Nissan are collaborating under a joint management but the Leaf is a different car, much bigger than the Zoe; bigger wheel base, larger battery, etc.
The Zoe would be about Prius C sized, the Leaf more like the Prius.
See Renault Zoe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and Nissan Leaf - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
For cars that are related to the Leaf see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Leaf#Related_cars
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Explain to me how nissan and renault are any different besides the names?
CG went through both companies and cleared them out. They have both the exact same technology and innovation. The zoes pack says its 22kwh the leaf say 24kwh 22kwh useable. I bet they are the same packs. And if not its a leaf pack missing 2 cells.
Its like Honda and Acura..... Same technology same everything. Yes the acuras may get this or that but at the end of the day its the same stuff.
Your took my comment too literal. My point is Renault is try to act all "innovative" and eco friendly when before Carlos Ghoen got there they didnt have any of that focus. If you know who CG is then you know he is the reason Renault has electric cars and why they don't have hybrids.
One man runs both companies the same exact way.
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Look at how "different" they are.
The companies claim that they generate more than €200 million per year by sharing warehouses, containers, shipping crates, seagoing vessels and customs-related processing.[22] In total, the Alliance reported more than €1.5 billion in synergies in 2010.[23]
The Alliance develops "best practices," borrowing systems and controls from one company to strengthen the other company where appropriate. The "Nissan Production Way" became the cornerstone of the "Système de Production Renault" standard used by all Renault factories. Renault reported productivity increasing by 15 percent due to the new system.[24]
They share customs paperwork and shipping containers and warehouses.
And Nissan is the one who made all the advancements in battery tech.
In May 2008, as part of the Alliance’s zero emission strategy, Nissan and NEC formed a joint-venture company, Automotive Energy Supply Corporation (AESC) to focus on the development and mass production of advanced lithium-ion batteries for a wide range of automotive applications from hybrids, electric vehicles to fuel-cell vehicles. AESC began production in 2009 at its facility at Nissan’s Zama plant in Kanagawa Prefecture where annual capacity is 65,000 units
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01-16-2015, 08:26 AM
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They are as different as a Prius C and a Prius, or a Fiesta and a Focus.
I've seen them side by side, that's why I triggered on your remark.
The Leaf is much bigger in the flesh. Like a family car to a city car.
Even though they are built by the same conglomerate, they do not share a single common part.
Sorry that you don't like to read it but is is true no less.
There, I'm done with it.
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01-16-2015, 03:06 PM
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Your just looking at the outward appearance. They use the same batteries bud. Made by AESC and Nissan.
and a prius and a prius C are the same car. Different body but same car. I Think the reason you have such a hard time understanding me is because you look at a car and stop at the skin. I look at a car and stare through it. T
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