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Old 01-16-2015, 02:48 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Your just looking at the outward appearance. They use the same batteries bud. Made by AESC and Nissan.

and a prius and a prius C are the same car. Different body but same car. I Think the reason you have such a hard time understanding me is because you look at a car and stop at the skin. I look at a car and stare through it. T
Aha. I see what you mean. Prius=Prius C. Good day sir.

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Old 01-16-2015, 07:51 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Aha. I see what you mean. Prius=Prius C. Good day sir.
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Old 01-18-2015, 04:04 AM   #43 (permalink)
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The Zoe is called a leaf here. Renault and nissan are one and the same.
if this car is really true and at 23,9 then they should just start making it tomorrow. 50% of new cars would be that.
No it definitely is not.

Different engine, different battery layout and supplier, the ZOE is a B-class car (VW Polo size) when the Leaf is a C-class car (VW Golf size).

Renault and Nissan made an Alliance in 1999 but despite all our efforts, there is a lot left to be allowed to call it "same".

I work for Renault by the way.
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Back on topic - I hope the Eolab is foreshadowing the gen 2 Leaf. That would be a very good thing.
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Back on topic - I hope the Eolab is foreshadowing the gen 2 Leaf. That would be a very good thing.
Most likely not. (B-Pf vs C-Pf)

Current gas prices not helping with EV sales either, I don't know if we will see 2nd gen Leaf's or Zoe's except for the phase 2.

Issue with EV's is their range and energy refill time drag them to round-town operation where aero performance is not number one priority.
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I am not sure what this means - can you clarify, please?

The Chevy Bolt concept, and the Tesla Model 3 are also promised for the same time frame as the 2nd gen Leaf, with similar ranges; so I hope we see all three.
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B platform car : Polo size
C platform car : Golf size

I didn't know about a 2nd gen Leaf.
I only know about the Zoe phase 2 which should see a worthwhile range improvement.

I am quite lost in the Gen naming.

Usually a phase 2 is minor trim and maybe engines evolution and the way I see it a Gen is a major reskin or a brand new car.

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