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Old 09-29-2021, 09:31 AM   #181 (permalink)
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Think about it before. The process of putting yourself in a house will suck you back into the main stream if you're not resisting every step of the way.
Please explain. Didn't seem to affect me, or maybe that concept is incorrect.

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Old 09-29-2021, 11:06 AM   #182 (permalink)
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I took this picture myself, years ago when I could travel as far as McMinnville.



I believe aerohead has used a concrete female form to make aerocaps (or something).
deHavilland Aircraft Company used a concrete sarcophagus lower tool to receive steamed and glued plywood veneer laminations, captured below an airtight, heated, inflatable rubber 'upper mold' lid.
They could create half of the Mosquito bomber fuselage as a single composite component. Elegant!
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Old 09-29-2021, 11:28 AM   #183 (permalink)
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Fish Farming doesn't fulfill the role salmon have in tribal religions and culture.

Bonneville Power Administration's Fish and Wildlife division spent $450.4 million in 2017. Most of that was on salmon.
Yes - and all the myriad other huge benefits that salmon and the other life on rivers have. The forest in the headlands of the massive watershed systems are suffering mightily with the lack of salmon - when they return to where they were spawned, to breed the next generation and then die - their very bodies are a massive source of nutrition for animals, and this is what has contributed more than we ever thought to the soil and plant life all over those headlands. Good soil leads to healthy rivers, and we have totally disrupted this cycle, with our massive dams.
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Old 09-29-2021, 12:29 PM   #184 (permalink)
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Salmon

Not too long ago, PBS had a science program about what biologists have come to regard as 'Keystone' species, which without, entire biomes fall apart.
Grizzly bear, pooping out, what was once salmon, is the beginning of the entire soil enrichment spectrum upstream of, and surrounding the spawning grounds. Carried to high elevations, and everywhere in between.
They also make for world-record-holder Bonneville Salt Flats streamliner bodies .
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Please explain. Didn't seem to affect me, or maybe that concept is incorrect.
OOps! Almost missed a question.

Fish/water. Forest/trees. Bears pooping in the woods? I'm not sure of the analogy, but zoning codes and union rules affect everything under their juridiction. Freedumb is on the edges: schools buses under DMV rules and boats under the Coast Guard.

A prime example would be Fuller's Dymaxion anything, plumbers smothered the bathroom in the crib, the houses were antithetical to the AIA.
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Bears are omnivores. If they are unable to catch much salmon it still would not stop them pooping in the woods?

Also, I do like salmon a lot but I don't poop in the woods. I'm all in for ecological but the practical aspects win me over there. Bear with me...
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It's been my impression that La Resistance to nuclear power has faded away. It's now an acceptable solution to Glo Climate Change.

MIT Alumni Designed Micro-Reactor BURNS Nuclear Waste For Fuel

This drops you into the video just after a sponsored message. 1.5 Megawatts for 20 years. The metallic rods are recyclable to remove gaseous voids and re-enrich the waste.

The presenter use an interesting analogy, reduce CO2 released into the atmosphere into dry ice and compare to one Statue of Liberty for volume.
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I'm sure most of these concepts of the fragile and perfect food web are garbage. Nature is constantly adjusting to changing conditions. The world doesn't collapse because bears stop salmon pooping in the mountains.

Gaia didn't provide a perfectly balanced nature that humanity ruins at every turn. We improve nature to make it suit our needs. Any other measure of "good nature" is fictitious because Gaia isn't real, and there aren't any other species with value systems. If salmon are "good", it's only because we say so. Apart from humanity, nature doesn't care if salmon exist or not.
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The salmon and bears at the least, for sure.

I still like Thorium for orbital launches, but this system, with recyclable metal rods with rotating moderators and heat pipes for cooling sounds eminently reasonable.
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I do like salmon a lot
Me too, yet all the salmon in my country being imported makes me resort more often to some more affordable fish, either of some native species or the most commonly farmed fish which is usually tilapia.


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I'm all in for ecological but the practical aspects win me over there.
Last year I just found out a river which I believed to be too polluted to still have any fishing resource actually has plenty of tilapia. I don't really know what were the native species formerly available there, but I'm sure tilapia was actually a good way to keep the sustainability to the food chain there.

I guess the same relation between bears and salmon applies to those alligators and tilapia:

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